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And now the top line is that President Trump, on his endorsements went thirty seven and oh so he won thirty seven races that he endorsed in those candidates won versus zero losses. Okay. So the breakdown is he went ten and oero in Pennsylvania six and oh al Obama six and OHO in Kentucky nine and zero in Georgia five and oh in Idaho one and oher in Oregon. I don't even know the race he endorsed in Oregon. But nevertheless, thirty seven to zero. Okay. So the top line is that President Trump's endorsement reigns supreme, and that's certainly I think true on the top line, But when you dive deeper into it, I think it's more complex than that. I think that what really happened last night was that candidates that are with the base, that are with the grassroots went thirty seven and oh right, and there was by the way, there was more election results from last night than just the races that Trump endorsed in. Yeah, there's the graphic, but if you look at what really happened. Okay, so we got Burt Jones, who was actually the first Trump endorsed or candidate to endorse Trump in twenty fifteen out of Georgia. Now he's the really governor and he's now he now won. He's going to be going to a runoff for the next Georgia governor. We have endorsed Burt Jones. He's a great candidate. So get behind Burt Jones. We're gonna get him on the show soon. So that was one example you obviously saw with Mike Collins, who's about his mag As it Gets America first, as it Gets. He won the US Senate primary last night, but he's going to be going to a runoff. By the way, he was spent outspent fifteen to one. But Mike Collins is the guy who's actually got legislation passed as a congressman out of Georgia. He is unabashedly pro Trump, he's pro the grassroots, He works his butt off. We're really really proud of his accomplishment last night. He really he got close to not needing a runoff, so that was impressive for him. But we'll he'll go to the runoff there. I would expect him to win that. And the other thing that happened in Georgia last night, and I'm hesitant to read too much into it, I think that's fair, but there was actually Supreme State Supreme Court races in Georgia. Three the six seats were decided last night, all for Republicans, which means Republicans will control the State Supreme Court in Purple Georgia at least through twenty third. This is really interesting. 00:04:11 Speaker 5: So I think a lot of people just had no idea this was going on, which is not surprising because they'll have a point of judges. But then they can go up to the vote for another term. No one has lost reelection to this in over a century. But Democrats, because Georgia is a swing state that has a pretty strict abortion law, this is a big part of their motivation. They decided to put up challengers this time, and they put a lot of money behind it. They brought in President Obama to campaign on it. The Ran ads they tried to really pump it up, and thankfully they failed. One of their efforts was pretty close. A funny thing you'll notice by the way. You'll see that there's two people that were making a big challenge against and there's actually a pretty big gap in how they fared. 00:04:57 Speaker 2: And some of now analysts it's a. 00:05:00 Speaker 5: Non partisan election technically, so some analysts are saying one of the reasons the Democrat who did better was named Miracle Rankin versus the other was I think is Jen Jordan, So Miracle Rankin versus Jen Jordan, And they said Miracle Rankins sounded more like a name that a Democrat would have, So they think a lot of voters were in the booth trying to think, Okay, who's more likely to be the Democrat here, and they were a little bit better at guessing with Miracle Rankin than the other. 00:05:28 Speaker 2: And so that's why she did way better than the other Democrat. Interesting, well, whatever the result is or whatever the reason behind that is, we now have seen statewide races that won by Republicans are conservatives, at least in Georgia, which is a good sign for the general because I want you to remember, even CNN is calling the osof race. He's the incumbent Democrat senator from the state of Georgia, the most vulnerable Senate race for Democrats going into this midterm cycle. So if Mike Collins, our endorsed candidate who came out way on top last night, ends up winning the runoff, which we expect him to do, then that gives us a really good shot looking at Georgia. Now, Georgia is one of those states that I kind of fear the most right. It's been a state that we you know, we had Purdue as a senator, ended up losing that, We ran herschel Walker ended up losing that. So we've got warn Off and Asoff as our senator is there, we've got Kemp's governor. He's sort of been a thorn in Trump's side. It's a weird state. I talked to some of the Trump one point zero Trump. You know twenty twenty guys about Georgia. They said it's the hardest state for the president to actually crowd build in. So I don't know what's going on in Georgia, but it's a historically red state. Republicans have the registration advantage, but it's plagued us at the federal level. I think this is a real opportunity to take back some ground in Georgia. So we're watching that very closely. And then again Bert Jones for governor. That would be a massive, massive race there. We've endorsed Burt Jones. So turning our attention also to Kentucky. That's the other big race that everybody was looking at. Kentucky's fourth which is of course Thomas Massey. We talked about it on the show some we're going to actually bring Scott Jennings, who's a Kentucky native, onto the show in the second half of this hour to get his take. But he lost. He lost by about nine points, which was significant. Now, a lot of people were calling this race fifty to fifty. We had Rich Barris on the show. He was even I think basically leaning that Massey was retaking the edge. But What ended up happening is the older voters here way out indexed. They punched way above their weight. They turned out way more than gen Z and millennials, and they voted in mass for Thomas or for Ed Gyle Rain, not for Thomas Massey. So it would ended up being a huge, huge victory. Obviously, President Trump took a special interest in this race, so did Stephen Miller, so did Pete Hegseth, so Secretary of War even campaign, which is a very unusual move. But this was a massive, massive victory for the President because he took special I guess special interest in it. And that's not a surprise. Now, the I would call it, the sort of dissident wing of the Conservative coalition is very upset about this, and I think that's to be expected. Gen Z was very much in Massy's corner. And I want to show this graphic here, So if you look at this as coming from Chris Brunette, Massy versus Gyrin support by age demographic, you can see that eighteen to twenty nine year old supported Massy seventy eight point five percent to twenty one point five percent. Thirty to forty four year olds, that millennial Demo sixty four point nine to thirty five point one, and then gen X is about fifty to fifty. But look at that sixty five plus Blake, thirty five for Gyle Rain and sixty five percent or thirty five for Massy, sixty five percent for gol Ray. 00:09:06 Speaker 5: So that turns into a landslide because they turn out the greater numbers, and also they're more likely to be Republican generally. But it does show what we discussed, there is a generational divide there. 00:09:18 Speaker 2: And so. 00:09:20 Speaker 5: For now it was a big beat down for the President and against Massey, but we can see there's potential shifts on the horizon. 00:09:29 Speaker 2: There could be potential shifts on the horizon. Nevertheless, President Trump had a big night and he endorsed Ken Paxton, thank goodness, and so Paxton's got a huge boost in that senatorial GOP primer. All right, So there is a tweet that went pretty vibra by one of our very common guests here, great friend of the show, and that is Sean Davis, and he had a very interesting tweet about why he believed Massey loss. Now, a lot of noise has been made about the Massy race because they think that the Israel lobby won it for him, and it was. It turned out to be the most expensive congressional race in the history of congressional races, which is saying something because typically those that's like a million hu milionary and this is a primary. Yeah, so this ended up being I think a roughly around forty million dollars on a GOP primary for a congressional seat, which is unheard of, more than forty dollars per person in that district. Yeah, and a lot of finger pointing has been made at a pack and stuff, and they were they did play a role in this, there's no doubt. But it's also worth saying that only about five percent of Massy's money came in state, all right, so the rest of it came from probably mostly libertarian causes in you know, in backers in California, Texas, Florida, et cetera. Okay, so this is what he said. Why did MASSI lose? Massy went from principal libertarian during COVID to GOP leadership life a dog under McCarthy to anti Trump Epstein obsessive in twenty twenty five, after tweeting about that issue, whopping three times in the decade prior so that point Sean had made on our show as well his Epstein point that Massy is only mentioned that three times in a decade. Immediately twenty twenty five comes around, and it's basically the only thing he's talking about. The nail in the coffin for him was voting against the One Big Beautiful Bill in twenty twenty five because, according to Massey, it did too much to secure the border. Sean ended up getting challenged on that, and he was proven correct. Massey did make a comment like that, here's what's interesting about this, and I thought Sean did a great job in this tweet. He said. Trump merciless mercilessly trashed Massey in twenty twenty, calling him a disaster for America and Kentucky, saying he should be thrown out of the GOP entirely. But Massey easily swatted that away and won eighty one to nineteen. So Trump didn't like Massey in twenty twenty, and yet he won eighty to twenty. 00:12:00 Speaker 5: In his primily, it's it's exactly what he says, which is Massey has Massy has annoyed Trump for a long time. Trump has wanted him gone a lot longer than he's wanted other Republicans gone. He's one of the few guys who Trump went after in his first term and has stuck around all the way until now. 00:12:17 Speaker 2: He served, but I think he served what seven terms? 00:12:20 Speaker 5: Yeah, and he he was around even before Trumble was in and he annoyed him in a bunch of ways. But what was actually fatal to him is when he decides to first of all, become this character whose persona is being annoying to Trump and then getting He got a lot of love from Rocanna, from Mother Jones, from left wing outlets because he's doing this, and on top of that that he decided to become the face of I'll be Frank, an issue that I don't think is is core to the MAGA priorities in terms of saving the country and instead just kind of involves smearing the President and his allies. Where he's staying there, he just says they're all protecting pedophiles. That is an insane thing to say. 00:13:03 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a insane thing to say, especially since the Democrats were sitting on the Epstein files for four years and didn't even mention them. Nobody even brought it up. 00:13:11 Speaker 4: Now. 00:13:11 Speaker 2: It would be one thing if there was any leadership during those four years to unseal the Epstein files. There wasn't. The only people that have actually unsealed anything, and you could disagree with the way they did it is the Trump administration. Okay, he said weirder things. 00:13:26 Speaker 5: I think he he shouldn't get away with what he does. He's suggested that Jeffrey Epstein's actually alive and they're they're covering up that his death was faked. He'd done that, He's done that, yes, he said, he said, like, we don't know where he is. And then on top of that, he's also called for criminal charges to be brought against people who we like, actually categorically know there's like no credible allegations against where in fact, allegations have already been investigated and found to be groundless, and he just says we should we should prosecute and indict them. Anyway, Well, he's been hugely reckless with this, and I deserve to get owned. 00:13:57 Speaker 2: But I think it's something I think it's something even deeper, actually sort of fundamental. And this is actually the main paragraph I wanted to get through from Sean. He said, Massey lost because he went from being perceived as a quirky but lovable nerd who seemed to genuinely believe everything he said, which is definitely the way that I perceived Massy. I believe that, like listen, I disagreed with them on stuff, I really agreed with them on some stuff, but I believed that he believed it, you know, and he was sticking to his principles. So he went from that to looking like a clout chasing influencer who cared more about getting TV time with Democrats on an issue he clearly never cared about until five minutes ago than he did about representing his voters, and that I think is a really interesting stuff. And he, you know, he says, I don't know if it was losing his wife, the tragic death of his spouse. I don't know, if you know, if it was a desire for notoriety or media claim or lucrative podcasting career. And by the way, that's what everybody's predicting is that Massey is going to now become a podcaster. Will see him on the podcast circuit with you know, Dave Smith and you know, probably Candice, like whoever else right, So I don't know what's gonna happen in the future, but that's what everybody's predicting. And it does feel like that was ultimately what happened. If you if you do like a before and after of Thomas Massey when he was married to his wife and he had like no facial hair, and. 00:15:20 Speaker 5: He went from looking like a dorking like Robert General, he got a glow. 00:15:25 Speaker 2: Up and and that was interesting. But by the way, that happens sometimes when people lose their spouse later in life, they kind of go back to the gym and they kind of I'm not even mad about any of that stuff. I'm just saying I actually think that was more fundamental, because he really had chops and credibility, and then it just felt like he went he went in a different direction and and I think the voters perceived that. And he says Massy's voters didn't change all that much, but he did. 00:15:54 Speaker 5: Audience captures a real thing, and I think Massey he got Steve Felvick, he got caught up. He got caught up in becoming a celebrity. For lack of a better. 00:16:03 Speaker 2: Term, well, they're already chanting his name for twenty twenty eight during his concession speech. So I put it this way, we have not seen the last of Thomas Massey. It'll just be a question of what he chooses to do. Certainly, the war in Iran is having a devastating effect on the people living there locally. What most people don't realize is it's affecting everyone on the global scale as well, even if we aren't there physically. 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Good to see you, Hey, Andrew, good to see you brother. 00:18:19 Speaker 3: Thanks for the invite. 00:18:20 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I'm so glad. I know you got your show on next everybody check that out, and you made time for us, so I appreciate it, all right. So I saw you on CNN last night. I saw the clip you went off on, mister Thomas Massey. I'm gonna play the clip and I'll get your reaction to it here st nineteen. But I would have come. 00:18:39 Speaker 6: Out sooner, but I had to call my opponent and concede, and it took a while to find ed Galryan and tel Aviv. 00:18:50 Speaker 2: I didn't expect that. I didn't expect that from him. 00:18:54 Speaker 7: I uh, look, I live in this district. I vote in this district. I have voted for Thomas Massey many times. That was terrible, and I thought that, you know, he is, in my opinion, he has changed somewhat over the years, and this dipping into this anti Semitism and sort of making everything about Israel, and I just I don't know. I think, as you know where I stand on it. I don't think this is good for our party. I don't think it's good for the conservative movement. And for him to go up on stage and do that last night was pretty pretty bad. 00:19:31 Speaker 3: In my opinion. So yeah, I sat on CNN. 00:19:34 Speaker 7: I thought it was a worth noting and worth calling out and worth condemning, and so I did it. 00:19:40 Speaker 2: Yeah, you did it, and I thought you did a great job. Honestly, I kind of with you. Listen, I like Thomas Massey. I have had affection for him. Charlie had affection for him. You know, there was more than a few comments in my mentions yesterday saying you've betrayed Charlie and all of this. Here's the thing, Thomas Massey used to vote, have tremendous voting record actually, and then two years ago something changed, and then it wasn't so good, and he got fixated on all the Epstein stuff. He got fixated on the you know, the GOP is protecting pedophile stuff. And I think we need to have a real conversation about Epstein because nobody wants to do it, because I mean, there's like Michael Tracy, you know, and he gets widely excoriated for it. But first fact here is that you know, the Democrats didn't release the files. The Republicans have been releasing the files. You may not like the way they did it, Okay, fine, I have some critiques too. I do. I didn't like the Binder thing. I didn't, you know, like I didn't like I didn't like Trump's reaction to it. Charlie didn't like Trump's reaction to it. But the truth is, and Blake has been out. I give Blake a ton of credit here. He's there hasn't been the smoking gun that we that we wanted or expected or thought was going to materialize. There's been a lot of bad behavior, There's been a lot of gross stuff, but this, you know, and that's part of it. 00:21:04 Speaker 5: It's like they say it, we're always apparently one email release away, one file, you know, we'll finally get the smoking gun. That's just oh, here's the list in every single crime this person committed, and also here's this video attempt. Where instead we have millions of these things, and some of them have been humiliating for incredibly rich and influential people. If if Bill Gates is getting humiliated, if Elon Musk is getting humiliated, if Leon Black is getting embarrassed by what comes out of these, if Laurence Summers is getting embarrassed by what's coming out of these, where's the cover up here? Because really important and notable people are actually getting dumped on from this stuff. 00:21:38 Speaker 2: But the idea that there's like, you know, there's gonna be this email that gets released and then you know, sixty seven pedophiles that are all billionaires are gonna be thrown in in the goolag or something like that's just we just haven't seen. I would love to see that. I would love to see a bunch of pedophiles be you know, Frog March. Yeah, exactly. If it's not there, it's not there. We have to have rules, and we have to have laws, and we have to deal with this thing the way a civilized, advanced nation would instead. One of my critiques of Massy is that, yeah, you you you let on this, you were you out with Rocanna, but you didn't even mention it for a decade, and all of a sudden it became your cause. Azure and listen, I'm with him candidly on the Iran war, Scott, you and you and I might be a little bit of a difference of opinion on that, but like, you can't be a thorn in your side of your party for years now and not build up some enemies in some ire So I'm you know, I have no ill will towards him. I'm just I'm also like not that upset today, okay. And I didn't like the tel Aviv joke okay or whatever you want to call that. 00:22:44 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:22:44 Speaker 7: On the Epstein stuff, you know, Massy spent a lot of time with Rocanna, and Rocanna was using the issue to hurt Donald Trump, and Thomas Massey started to try to use the issue to hurt Donald Trump. Democrats wanted everybody to believe that Donald Trump had some problem in the Epstein files. They still go out and say that on television almost every day. I hear it every day. There's not a shred of evidence Donald Trump ever did anything wrong, but Thomas Massey was teaming up with people who wanted everybody to believe that that was really unforgivable in my opinion. Regarding the issues, Thomas Massey started voting with Democrats on things like tax cuts. He opposed the President's Big Beautiful Bill last summer. He voted with them against Donald Trump's border security initiatives like the wall. I mean, look, I don't know much, but I know one thing. There's a couple of issues on which you cannot become an apostate in a Republican primary, and that is taxes and immigration. 00:23:40 Speaker 3: If you were opposing. 00:23:40 Speaker 7: Donald Trump on cutting taxes and stopping the flow of illegal aliens across the border, you are going to have a problem. As someone who lives here, I watched all the ad traffic, Almost all the advertising was about those issues, and it's like Trump wants to do this, Massey, doesn't. 00:23:56 Speaker 3: You make the choice? 00:23:57 Speaker 7: And the people in Kentucky have agency. They made the choice. They want a Republican congressman to support the president. I think one of Massey's problems is that he began to think, because I guess of all of his online activity, that he was somehow bigger in the party or more he was supposed to be setting the agenda for the party. No, the Republican voters here want Donald Trump to set the agenda, and he had set that agenda. Massey opposed the agenda, and he paid the price in our primary. It's easy to overanalyze these things, but it's really no more complicated than that, in my opinion. 00:24:29 Speaker 2: So one thing that I am aware of those Scott now curious your perspective on it is the generational breakdown. The older voters, the older you are, the more likely you were to vote for Gowrian, The younger you were, the more likely you were to vote for Massy. What do you make of the generational divide and is it problematic or are those are going to grow up and change their voting habits? I mean, what do you see here? 00:24:52 Speaker 7: Some of it I think has to do with communications. I think Massey tends to communicate more on platforms. 00:24:58 Speaker 3: That are used by younger voters, and gal the. 00:25:00 Speaker 7: Communications around his campaign were on platforms that were geared towards older voters. I also think Galleran, you know, look, he supported the president on Iran. 00:25:09 Speaker 3: He's a veteran, he's a Navy seal, you know. 00:25:12 Speaker 7: I think that message vector, frankly, was more you know, kind of wrapping the flag, wrapping patriotism, support the commander in chief. That meant more, I think to the older voters in the fourth Congressional District, who I think are more traditional conservatives when it comes to national security stuff. If Donald Trump says we need to go attack somebody, they're going to get in line and they want to do it. And Galerian was certainly was certainly right there on that. I worry a little bit about some of the conspiracies and the sort of what I don't consider to be conservative messaging vectors that Massey was pursuing to try to attract some of the younger voters. You know, But but you know, that's the kind of campaign he chose to run. The district, you know, has some younger voters in it, but you know, it's a Republican primary in a rural area in Middle America. There's a lot of older traditional conservatives in there who just decided I would rather have a more uh you know, loyal Republican in the job to help my president succeed. And you know, maybe some of the younger voters didn't didn't feel that way as much. 00:26:12 Speaker 3: About gall Eran. 00:26:13 Speaker 7: You know, Gallerin himself, he wasn't really that much of a part of the campaign. 00:26:18 Speaker 3: He was endorsed by Trump. 00:26:19 Speaker 7: The whole thing was a referendum on is Massy supporting Trump enough? I mean that that was the whole question, and whether you voted him up or down. I don't think it had as much to do with gal Rind's credentials or his views as it did with just you know, I thought Massy was going to help Trump and it turns out he's hurting him and people got tired. 00:26:39 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I want to get to the Andy Barr Race, but I just have to show up this before and after this, before and after that. Like Thomas Massey, the Thomas Massey that I really was like a huge fan of versus you know what he sort of is lately. I mean barely recognizable between between the two. I mean, Thomas mass he's an M I T. 00:27:01 Speaker 3: Grad. 00:27:01 Speaker 2: He's a you know what, he built his own house, his own house. He's he like he like, uh, you know, on on Rob Milk on all this stuff and that and that and that. 00:27:12 Speaker 5: He's like he looks like you said, like a Civil war general. Looks like suddenly from a Civil war general. And just totally different behavior too. It's just you think of this nerd. He went to MI I T. And now he's a guy who I'll be frank, he's chasing conspiracy theory. 00:27:24 Speaker 2: Well, and you do expect he's gonna have his podcast next go ahead. 00:27:28 Speaker 7: He went from like lovable, quirky policy nerd that you know, was always willing to carry the torch on you know, controlling spending and so on and so forth, to to some bizarre peddler of conspiracy theories, and I think he look, a lot of people make this mistake in their lives. 00:27:43 Speaker 3: Politics are otherwise. You can it's possible to be too. 00:27:47 Speaker 7: Online, you know, you get very very online, you get wrapped up in what's going on online. And uh and I think maybe he fell victim to that a little bit. 00:27:55 Speaker 3: But I guess we'll see what he does in his next career. 00:27:57 Speaker 7: But yeah, he a lot of people liked him, and I think still want to like him. 00:28:01 Speaker 2: I still want to like him that time in. 00:28:03 Speaker 7: That way, I wouldn't this wasn't wasn't good enough for the Republicans who you know, No. 00:28:09 Speaker 2: Listen, I think that I think we could make the mistake of making too much out of this race and taking too much away from it. Let's take our our Let's open the aperture up a little bit. So you got Andy Barr, I know you got you know these guys, Well, were you surprised by the result in that Senate race GOP primary? 00:28:26 Speaker 4: Not at all? 00:28:27 Speaker 7: Late in the campaign, President Trump came in and endorsed Andy Barr, and not only that, he made a deal to get Nate Morris, who was another candidate out of the race. 00:28:37 Speaker 3: That just left Daniel Cameron. But look in. 00:28:39 Speaker 7: Kentucky, like in most places, if if Donald Trump makes a choice in a primary, it typically makes the difference. This one had been a pretty close race I think between Bar and Camera, and when Trump came in and made the choice, everybody flowed to Andy Barr. He's been a good congressman from central Kentucky in the Lexington area, and the Democrats here nominated a very, very a progressive radical name Charles Booker. So I don't think Andy bar will have any trouble holding the seat in November. 00:29:05 Speaker 2: Got it well, if you could help talk to him back channel with him that I have some notes on immigration I'd like to talk to him about. If you could set that up, I'd be very grateful. We were big supporters of Nate Morris, so I was a little disappointed to see the way that played out. Nate's been a good sport about it. I think we haven't seen the last of Nate Morris. And uh, anyways, that's that's h that's that. So Andy Barr is gonna probably run away with this and be the next Senator from state of Kentucky. Georgia Uh, you got Mike Collins. We endorsed him at Turning Point Action. He had a big night, gonna go to the runoff, I would expect him. He's probably gonna mop up there. I'm also looking at Michigan, Mike Rogers. That's a race to watch. So let's let's talk. You've got the gutting of the VRA Section two by the Supreme Court, You've got fewer and fewer toss up seats. It does feel like there's a bit of a momentum shift, right You saw You saw that with the Indiana We had five guys that voted in the US State Senate there against redistricting. President Trump turning point Action. We had a big night there. You're seeing that there's there's less meat on the bone. If we're gonna see a wave election, which you often do in the midterms, there's let's meet on the bone here. I'm feeling a momentum shift. I'm sudden, I'm cautiously optimistic. What are you seeing holding the Senate, holding the House? 00:30:21 Speaker 7: I think on redistricting, there's been a clear momentum shift. The Supreme Court in Virginia throwing out there, you know that crazy map that they passed. That that that changed a lot to go back to six to five in Virginia, and then you look at some of the changes that have been made in the southern states. So that alone gives Republicans, you know, a fighting chance, whereas you know, a few weeks ago, I think a lot of us were sitting around in the doldrums thinking, well, there's there's no way if Democrats do all these things on redistricting. 00:30:46 Speaker 3: And we don't you know, they're gonna they're gonna blow us out. 00:30:49 Speaker 7: So that that's changed. The other thing going on, I think is financially. You know, Trump has raised a ton of money, The party is doing well financially, and I think on candidate recruitment, we're doing well. We're nominating people who are basically mainstream conservatives who have broad common sense appeal. On the Democratic side, you brought up Michigan, they tend to be looking at people who are so far out of the mainstream that you take a purple state. I mean, all those candidates on the Democratic side running for Senate Michigan are lunatics. Okay, they're radical, progressive lunatics, dangerous people. 00:31:22 Speaker 3: Look what's going on in Maine. You've got this Platiner character. 00:31:25 Speaker 7: I mean, every single day something comes out about Platiner, and you think, where do they find these kinds of people. I think that's also happening in house primaries around the country, where the more radical Democrats are winning primaries, but they may not be a. 00:31:39 Speaker 3: Match for you know, more purple constituency. 00:31:42 Speaker 7: Texas, They've nominated a guy for Senate down there who thinks there's six genders and should be no meat. 00:31:47 Speaker 3: I mean, good luck selling this in. 00:31:48 Speaker 7: Texas, Like, how do you I've never met anybody from Texas who believes that, except yeah, Scott, I'm gonna call my shot. 00:31:56 Speaker 2: I think Paston's going to win the primary. He's gonna end up winning the general by six to ten points. That's my prediction. 00:32:04 Speaker 7: I think Paxton will win the race in the fall. I think Democrats, as they have in the past, are going to spend a boatload of money in Texas. They spend a bunch of money on Bedoy. They you know, they spend a bunch of money, you know, on a couple of Senate races down there, and it never pans out for them. Texas is basically a conservative state and by the way Keim Paxton's won election statewide before and Tallerico. They are going to try to portray him as a middle of the road, normal person. There's nothing normal about this. 00:32:39 Speaker 4: Issue. 00:32:39 Speaker 3: There's nothing normal or relatable about any of this. But you know what's but to the Democrat, they'd always try. 00:32:47 Speaker 7: To come up with the caricature of what they think, you know, a normal Middle America male is like like, this is the caricature of what they think it's supposed to. 00:32:55 Speaker 2: Be, Like early AI. It's got like six fingers, you know. 00:32:59 Speaker 5: Like they'll always they always end up self destructing a little bit because Democrats nationwide are obsessed with Texas. They love the idea of flipping it. And so what they do is they end up spending a ton of money. It's always a ton of out of state money. So these guys come out Texas even compared to other states, I think, is a little they're a little regional. They don't like it when they sense other people are coming in and changing Texas. They like the idea that they're a very distinct state. And so then oh here's here's someone coming in to transform and flip Texas blue, and Texas Democrats are are really lib in comparison to some states, really are like they're much more left wing than some other red state democrats are. They hype it up and they blow it all of smithereens. They make it worse for themselves. 00:33:39 Speaker 3: They might have been better off with Jasmine Crockett down there. I'm just I mean she, I mean, look, she is a. 00:33:46 Speaker 7: More normal conservative person than James Tallerica. I'm just telling you right now. Her voting record was relatively you know, more main but more mainstream than anything I've ever heard tall Rico say. And the fact that Democrats continue to try to with a straight face, go on television and say, oh no, no, no, this is just like your you know, mild mannered, ordinary, you know, Christian guy from tech. 00:34:08 Speaker 6: It is. 00:34:09 Speaker 7: It is the farthest thing from the truth. And they think people are buying it. Nobody's buying it. Nobody's buying the stick in Maine. This guy's not an oyster farmer. He's like a trust fund kid they have constructed to run for the US Senate. And they're overlooking the fact that he had a Nazi tattoo, that he says he wants to masturbate in public toilets. 00:34:27 Speaker 3: I mean, it's. 00:34:28 Speaker 7: Crazy what they are trying to present to the American people as normal, and it's not gonna work. 00:34:34 Speaker 2: I'm going to play this Hakeem jefferis clip because I do think one of the best arguments, and I don't think it's cope, I don't think it's opium, is that Dems do overshoot. They scare the hell out of a lot of people, I know myself included. It's ten. 00:34:47 Speaker 8: I guess part of how we as House Democrats view this moment, either MAGA extremists are going to break the country or we're going to break them, and our goal is to break them. We will defeat them, we have to beat them electorally, and then we have to break their spirit because of the extremism that's being unleased in the American people. 00:35:08 Speaker 4: That's completely and totally unacceptable. 00:35:10 Speaker 2: That was the No Bad Ideas Conference. I think that Kamala Harris put together final words to you, Scott. 00:35:17 Speaker 7: So when you hear Hakeem Jeffries or any other Democrats say maga extremist, they just mean anybody who has ever voted Republican in their life. That's the thing they're not talking about five or ten people that they don't like. They're talking about eighty million Americans who voted for Donald Trump, who vote Republican, who just want to go out and support, you know, a common sense conservative. To them, you are a maga extremist who needs to be punished, who needs to get something. They need to get revenge on you. They need to break your spirit. Winning at the ballot box will not be enough for these people. They're already promising retribution and revenge on anybody who's ever been within two hundred feet of Donald Trump, and now they're extend to anybody who ever cast a ballot for a Republican candidate in any office. That's what I hear in Hakeem Jeffrey's words. 00:36:07 Speaker 2: Well, I mean I feel for you, Scott, because every night on CNN, I'm pretty sure you're sitting around a table of people who think you're a maga extremist and you're a pretty like mainstream guy. You know. All right, Scott Jennings, have a good show. We'll see you next time, my friend, Thank you for joining us. 00:36:21 Speaker 3: Thank you, Andrew. 00:36:24 Speaker 2: Here's what your financial advisor won't tell you. By the time the news tells you to buy gold. It's too late. You're waiting. I get it. Everybody's waiting, waiting to see if the ceasefire holds, waiting to see if the straight of horn moose reopens, waiting to see what happens next. But gold isn't waiting for you. 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He has great media savvy and Peachy Keenan is one of our California fans, California experts, and she's joining. 00:38:19 Speaker 2: Our show now to talk about his run. Peachey, are you. 00:38:21 Speaker 9: There, I'm here. How are you guys? 00:38:23 Speaker 2: Welcome? 00:38:24 Speaker 5: Welcome, So let's just start with let's how is Spencer shaking things up? What's it like in Los Angeles now that there's hope in this city for the first time in a while, it seems yeah, and I. 00:38:36 Speaker 9: Just want to let you know that. Right now, as we speak, my house is filled yet again with the smell of burning forest fires. I live near Altadina and there's like another fire going on up in the mountains today. So having a little PTSD from last January. Yeah, Spencer, Spencer is so great. I have never actually personally met him, but I feel like I know him because he went to Crossroads, which is like a super kind of fancy, private, very progressive high school in Santa Monica, where all of my in laws went. I know a ton of people who went to Crossroads who are actually in his class in Crossroads, and a lot of my family have been going to his father, who's a dentist, for years. So I feel like I know Spencer very well, and I'm super excited about his impending victory. 00:39:22 Speaker 2: Oh wow, hey, that's confident. Anyway, Peach, we had a technical difficulty. I heard the second half of what you said. We've got so many clips and really so peg. People don't know this, but you have a very well they some people know this, but your background in the entertainment industry, you did work with like Star Wars and the you know, I've I know Benson, pieces of your of your of your CV here. I mean I have to say, and I said this on X and it seemed to go around. I think this. I think he is the best campaigner of his generation, like Barnunn, without a doubt. The question is will it matter? But let's go in to some of his clips here and his campaign ads, because they're really striking a note. They're really resonating with people across the political spectrum, which is very interesting. What you need to do in la uh? I literally I could grab it's a grab bag. How about the lego takeoff of everything is awful? Although it says three and there's two three, so we'll play slot three and see what we get here. 00:40:25 Speaker 8: Everything is onful, Everything is hell on your part of the Karen Bess. 00:40:34 Speaker 10: And burning down our stream. She's killing. 00:40:52 Speaker 2: Like we've never seen this before. 00:40:54 Speaker 9: Yeah, and I you know a lot of the AI ads that are being made are actually being done by kind of fans. I don't believe his his main campaign video team is doing those. They're doing all the shots with Spencer and all the drone stuff, but these are just being developed sort of by grassroots creators on social media, and there's just there's more than one. There's a lot of them, and they're doing so many and they're they're really ground baking. 00:41:17 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and I would just make the argument that if even if he's not creating them, it's even more a testament to just how effective his campaign is being, because when you inspire a legion of like, you know, diehard fans out there that spend their time creating videos on your behalf, it underscores the enthusiasm for your campaign. 00:41:35 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:41:35 Speaker 9: And a lot of the creators are locals. They live here, and so they are they have so much stake in this. And anyone who lives in LA or around the cities you know, around LA City like Santa Monica, West Hollywood where I am in Pasadena, we're all affected by what happens in LA City, and so they just open their eyes. And for years now people have been complaining that there's, you know, a tent on fire outside their three million dollar Venice home, or they took their kids to the beach and there was needles in the sand. I mean, I've seen all of these things. They've been chased in parking lots. I have had to step over bodies, you know, you drive by scenes that look like Gaza. It's it's for years, years and years and years since I was a little kid. And so these are film These are creators and filmmakers who are just finally they finally have someone that that is giving them hope and giving them a motivation to like unleash their creativity. 00:42:28 Speaker 2: So there's this whole controversy about the fact that he's not actually staying in the airstream okay, on his burned down land. So again backstory, Spencer Pratt, his house gets burned down in the Palisades fire. I remember Peachey having you on with Charlie when the fires were raging in East Los Angeles area near your house, and you were like on the block giving us a play by play which buildings had just burned down. I mean, it was wild stuff. So this inspires him to get in this race. He says he's living in the air Stream and this is his new home. It turns out he's at the bel Air Hotel and people are making a big stink about this. But what I love is that he took advantage, and he took advantage of it, and he came out with this banger. I love it. Fifteen Now, this. 00:43:16 Speaker 11: Is a story all about how my life got to turn upside down and I had to take. 00:43:21 Speaker 2: A minute to roughbor Mayor. 00:43:22 Speaker 11: I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called bel Air in West Los Angeles Pallisades. 00:43:27 Speaker 9: In my backyard as the one I spend most of my day. 00:43:29 Speaker 11: He's seeding, humming birds, relaxing, all avoiding all the bombs outside of the school went a couple of poetess. 00:43:35 Speaker 2: Since the world's no good started making trouble. 00:43:38 Speaker 9: In my neighborhood, I got it one little fire. 00:43:40 Speaker 11: My mom got scared and said, you're moving in with Harvey Levin and bel Air. 00:43:44 Speaker 9: I moved to my kingdom. 00:43:45 Speaker 11: I was finally there, just sit on my throne as a Prince. 00:43:48 Speaker 2: Of bel Air. It's just so good. I mean, it's leaning into it. And you know, he's got the truth on his side. I think that is the big the big thing here. It's a whether he lives in an airstream because his house got burned down or it gets docks and then he gets death threats, which we can relate to here, and he so he has to go live at a hotel. What does it matter? The fact is his house burned down. I mean, it's an unassailable sort of origin story. What are you gonna do with it? Right? 00:44:17 Speaker 9: I mean they want him to be in attent with his children, like in the ash and the pepsidic pal saves is still ash. It's still there's such a true framed So yeah, that is his house. And to penalize him for not like living in the dirt with no running water with this kids like to penalize him for that is just I mean, this is you know, well nothing. 00:44:37 Speaker 2: By the way, peach, he said, he said as much. He said, I couldn't even get the sewer line hooked up to my airstream. I couldn't get power to the airstream. And not only that, all the trees burned down. And he was like he told he told TMZ's like I could get sniped. I'm getting death threats, Like there's nothing obscuring the view to my airstream. People if they wanted to hurt me, they could, so yeah, like I have to go live at a hotel right now because I have no home. And I was just like, you know, and you could see, uh, you could see the TMZ like the body legguers go like that's a pretty good point, and I feel bad about. 00:45:12 Speaker 9: They've got nothing else. These are just like Nythia or Karen's talking points. Yeah, look look at this footage. I mean, I grew up on Viadela pause in, you know, when I was little in the Palisades, and that helps burned down obviously, and it's just it's so sad. I have family who were also burned out, and they live they moved to Manhattan Beach. They're rebuilding, and obviously it's going to take god knows how long, you know, with Karen Bass in charge of giving up permis and they I read that people who did move out of Pacific Palisades are not getting their ballots, Like they're not considering you a Palisades resident because you had to flee to another. 00:45:52 Speaker 2: And that is La Proper. That is LA City, Yes, Manhattan Beach is well, no, ye Palisa, it is La Proper. Yeah, that's right. 00:46:04 Speaker 12: So when you talk to Jake Tapper in twenty twenty three, you said that your goal was to end street homelessness in LA by twenty twenty six. It's now twenty twenty six. 00:46:16 Speaker 4: And we haven't ended it. 00:46:17 Speaker 12: We have not ended it, and we're not close to ending it. How are you so off? 00:46:21 Speaker 13: Well, Basically, when I said that it was at the beginning of my term, I am very committed to achieving that goal. I didn't anticipate some of the bureaucratic barriers that I would experience, but I am prepared to take those on now. 00:46:39 Speaker 12: But you promised that it would go away one hundred percent, and it's only gone down about seventeen point six percent. So why should people trust you that you're going to be able to get to the hundred because, let me just. 00:46:51 Speaker 13: Tell you, for the first time, we've had a decrease at all. 00:46:56 Speaker 2: So peachy keenan LA resident, LA Area resident and childhood home and the Pacific Palisades where Spencer Pratt's home burned down. Now famously, homelessness has taken on a huge issue here, and I want to get back to that voter piece that you just mentioned, because I think it's key but homelessness. Talk about it if you're just a normal Angelino, Like, are you really worked up about homelessness? 00:47:19 Speaker 9: Yeah, it's the number one issue, and not just in La City, but even here in Pasadena. It's kind of become a mini skid row. You see people outside any like metro station. They're just loaded up on every bus bench, passed out unconsciousnes on the street. Sometimes they'll even see them like bent over in that like fentanyl frozen pose. It's absolutely everywhere. It's even creeping into places like Beverly Hills which never used to have it. The Palisades was one of these places that didn't have any homeless. It was like this pristine like utopia because we're kind of out of the way, it's a little bit hard to get to. And so of course now it's going, you know now that they burned down for I wonder why. It's something that affects every single person, no matter where you are. Basically the in La County and as that report just came out from from Chris Rufo and Kenneth Shrift that seventy percent are out of state homeless people. And I've known this for years. I've seen videos of people going around skid row interviewing homeless people. Where are you from? Where are you from? They're all from nowhere. No one grew up here. They come here because you can be homeless here very easily. You can get access to drugs, free needles, handouts, food, money checks the weather and the weather. Yeah, you can't be homeless as easily in you know, Montana or Wyoming or even Texas. And it's pleasant here all the time. You can live outdoors year round. And that's why Santa Monica at the beach now is basically an open air drug camp ocean avenue. These beautiful hotels are now overrun. You can't even walk down by the pier really anymore. 00:48:51 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's all over apocalyptic. So Spencer Pratt has another campaign at on the homelessness crisis. Let's play at SAUT eighteen. 00:49:00 Speaker 5: Los Angeles losing tens of thousand of residents, one of the biggest population drops in the nation. 00:49:06 Speaker 3: Man killed near the LA Convention Center. 00:49:08 Speaker 10: Billions and homeless funds will poorly track. 00:49:11 Speaker 13: It's far more sexy to talk about all these billions of dollars that are missing and blah blah blah. 00:49:17 Speaker 11: This system in Los Angeles isn't struggling, it's fundamentally broken. The city failed everyone, The insurance companies failed everyone. Mothers don't want to go to the park, that don't want to inhale fendonol smoke from the seventy thousand drug addicts that the mayor curly lets live on our streets. 00:49:35 Speaker 13: If you're not shocked by what you see, then I don't know what you. 00:49:40 Speaker 10: Would be shocked by. 00:49:41 Speaker 11: Just giving you needles and pipes on the street and dropping off a sandwich is not helping these people. 00:49:48 Speaker 2: So I think he's getting right to the crux of the issue and he's just nailing it every which way you could think of. But then the question then becomes peachy, can he win? Can he actually win? President Trump was asked about this, and we'll play that clip, but your your take? Can he actually win Los Angeles? 00:50:09 Speaker 9: I mean when you first announced, you know, everyone was like, well, that'd be great. But obviously La City went I think eighty percent to Kamala, twenty percent to Trump. So there are a lot of Trump supporters here, but we're so outnumbered. So it's like, how can you win? But Especially's been doing something really smart. He's playing it totally nonpartisan, and he's making this a local issue. LA issues transcend politics like left and right don't matter like at all. It's about quality of life, safety, your family, you know, your ability to just like walk down the street. And so that's very smart what he's doing. And so yes, I think he can win. Nithia Rahman fell apart in the debate. We all kind of saw right through her. She's actually I can't believe I'm saying this too progressive for Los Angeles. And then you have this quiet Pratt vote, which you have like you know, the sort of like you know, lay wealthy people, the trophy wives of Brentwood. You know, these are people who love Kamala Harris. They probably voted for Hillary Clinton. They hate Trump, but they more than that, they hate that they have to see a guy with his pants down, like taking a crap outside their children's elementary school. So it's possible that these women are like and that add that they should they he did or his friends did the AI like the yoga mom ad of like we're voting for Pratt. I think that's absolutely real. And now the question is are there enough of them to defeat Karen Bass's like Seiu thug army of ballad harvesters, which is why she kind of stole it from Rick Cruso. 00:51:43 Speaker 5: Do you think there's you say, La has particular aspects, but do you think there's any lessons we could draw from Spencer's success beyond just the you know, doesn't you know plays it nonpartisan for other cities in the US, because there are a lot of blue cities that are very badly run that people are fleeing. But they're Democrats and we've kind of given up on a lot of them. And it would be good for conservatives if we can have better governance in our big cities, because they're America's big cities. 00:52:11 Speaker 9: Yeah, it's so sad. It would be so easy to turn these places around. I mean, you could clean up the homeless here in like a few weeks. You just have to have You just have to literally enforce the law, just the way Trump suddenly stopped all border crossings. You just have to enforce the law. I think it's about candidates, and Spencer's is like the perfect kind of candidate that can kind of transcend, you know, party lines and be really engaging, great on TV, funny charisma, personality. It really comes down to finding those kinds of people who don't come across as these like stiff, you know, politician type people who are just people. Just don't want those right now. They want real people with real lived experience and who aren't these and also don't have a background of corruption and failure and high speed trains to nowhere, who are like fresh and who have been actually victimized by these by these crazy urban city policies. And so there are a lot of lessons. It would be so great because we've seen Mom Dammy and like Mum Dommy, the little Mum Dammy's popping up, like Nythia popping up. It would be so great to see a lot on army of Spencer Pratt types. Yeah, well, I went to Chicago and New York and all these other cities. 00:53:17 Speaker 2: Peachey. So this morning, Trump was asked about Spencer Pratt's campaign. Sa true, Sarah, do you. 00:53:23 Speaker 9: See yourself in him at all? A former reality TV star? 00:53:26 Speaker 4: Oh, i'd like does do well? He's a character. He's doing well. 00:53:30 Speaker 6: I don't know if you if you have a rigged vote out there, that's the problem. The votes are rigged well, And he says it in between we cut it. But he says, I heard he's maga. I heard he's really maga. I heard his big support Trump supporter is can he win? If that becomes the messaging from the left. 00:53:45 Speaker 9: Uh, it already is like Nythia is already calling him. You mega extremists, and he did this like ooh. 00:53:51 Speaker 2: Like you know scary, yeah, yeah. 00:53:54 Speaker 9: From the yeah from the debate, And so I think you know it. You're never going to get the like ideological, the crazy ones, the blue hairs, You're never gonna You're never gonna get them. You could have a homeless person burned there, like live in their house and burn it down. But I think he absolutely is likely to win. 00:54:09 Speaker 2: WHOA, that would be huge, that'd be techtonic. Peachey Caden follow her. She's amazing. Thank you peache for making the time. God bless you. 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And there's so much news that you guys are making, and I wanted our audience to hear about it because we and I'll be honest, sometimes I take my off the ball on the education front. And we had a couple guests that just really freaked me out about what's going on with these teachers' unions, what's going on with the way they spend and it re lit a fire inside of me to refocus on that. And that's why you're here. So just give us the broad strokes. Why does turning point education exist in the first place? 00:56:29 Speaker 14: Yeah, well, thank you so much, Andrew. Great to be with you and Blake. Yeah, I will tell you because Charlie, as both you guys and the audience knows, was able to see beyond the horizon and he was able to see that you know, as we all know, Charlie started on the college campuses. His last stay on this planet was on a college campus. But Charlie began to see what some of the others of us were beginning to see, and that is the indoctrination of walk ideologies was happening long before students were coming on college campuses. Remember we're talking with a professional acquaintance, doctor George Robert George at Princeton University a couple of years ago, and I was actually I did some work at Princeton, and I said, doctor George, what have you noticed different in your Then it was thirty nine years it's probably more like forty one, forty two, forty three years now, so four years ago. And he said, the thing that I noticed that is different with students today than when I first came here is that they're already coming indoctrinated. It used to be they came to Princeton to get indoctrinated. Now they're already getting indoctrinated in high school, in junior high we would say the doctrination starts in grade school and even preschool. So Charlie was seeing that, was seeing that if we're going to get this next generation, we have to go younger. And I was beginning to see the same thing in my own life. I was in Christian higher education, never anything lower than working with a freshman in high school our freshman in college. But I realized the same thing that I needed to go younger. So I made the intentional decision to go younger, and I ended up being president McKay through twelve school in the northern suburbs of Chicago and lo and behold, that was the school that Charlie attended third, fourth, and fifth grade, and he was he was gone by the time I got there. But that's how we connected, and that's how he knew that I existed, and that's how I knew that Charlie existed. 00:58:23 Speaker 2: That's uh. And I love that that that story. Charlie would often tell it, you know, when when he was introducing you on stage and things like that. So you've got so many initiatives here though. You've got We've got the Educator Summit, We've got Turning Point Education Prep Year. I know, we got to talk about this education freedom, tax credit. So take it as you will because they're all super important. And by the way, your speaker list on this where where did I see this? Right here? Yeah? This you've got I don't even know how you got George Barna, al Moller, John stone Street, Meghan Bash and Riley Gaines with Mary Miller, Ben Schettler, Ryan Walters, You've got yourself, Belle Federer, John Amachuku. I mean, you just got an all star cast, and you got so many confirmed speakers to this Educator Summit. When is it? And who in the audience should think about attending? 00:59:17 Speaker 4: Yeah? 00:59:17 Speaker 14: Great question. So this is our fifth annual Educator Summit. Already we're just a little over four years old and we're already out our fifth educator summit, which is great. This year suburban Chicago, Lincolnshire, Illinois. Interesting point of trivia here, Blake that Lincolnshire was the second turning point headquarters started at Lamont and then Lincolnshire was the second before Charlie moved down to Arizona. Interestingly, but we're at the Marriott Lincolnshire Resort and June sixteen to nineteen and this. 00:59:50 Speaker 2: Is June sixteen to nineteen in Brinklnshire, Illinois. Correct, absolutely, so who should consider going? 00:59:56 Speaker 14: You know, in the years that we've been doing this, which again, as I said, this o fifth year, we have had a great mix of public school teachers and administrators maybe about a third a third Christian school, private school teachers and administrators, about a third or so, maybe forty percent, homeschooling parents. And then we have some other folks. We have some pastors, we have some school board members, we have people that are interested in being education advocates. So I would say an answer to your question, is anybody who's interested in making a difference in the field of education and even more specifically, making a difference for the lives of these children that you know are currently being indoctrinated if they're in the public government school sector, and want to make them be a voice and help make a difference in the world of education. 01:00:43 Speaker 2: So I have spoken with a number of these kind of startup schools. There's a big community of startup schools in the Arizona and state of Arizona. Because of the child tax credit that was passed, we have full school choice in Arizona. It's amazing. If you want to break the back of the teachers union, you break their monopoly on education. By the way, they're fighting that like crazy, and we're gonna get it. We're gonna do some highlight that of how so Arizona has this great school choice pass it under Governor Doocy, and now they're trying they got all these ballot referendums and things like this to crawl like claw back power over student's education. And it's a total disaster. It's perfect the way it is right now, and they need to get their hands out of the cookie jar. They want their money back because there's money per pupil in most states, all right, So that's one thing. Okay, Now you've got this prep year, Turning point Education. Prep Year. Who should be who needs to hear about this? And what is it? 01:01:43 Speaker 4: Well? 01:01:43 Speaker 14: Prep Year is one of our major initiatives, and it's our newest initiative. We have five major things that we're doing, Andrew. One is we're starting schools across the country. The second is the educator something that we've just talked about. And by the way, any of your listeners viewers today, they're interested, they can go to our website, Turning point Ed dot com. It's all one word, Turning point Ed dot com and if they enter the code c K show, they get a thirty percent discount off of the price. 01:02:15 Speaker 2: I didn't even know they were doing that. Okay, Turning Pointed dot com. 01:02:20 Speaker 4: Yep. 01:02:20 Speaker 2: And then what's the code again, it's c K show and they get thirty percent off of prep yere. 01:02:26 Speaker 4: Wow, thirty percent off of the educator. 01:02:28 Speaker 2: Oh, educators of it. Okay, I'm so sorry. 01:02:29 Speaker 14: Yeah, okay, great, Yeah, the prep year, that's that's a deal in itself. But I just wanted to mention that because I'm glad you did. The price is already unbelievably cheap. It's fifty dollars. So it's thirty percent off of fifty. 01:02:41 Speaker 2: Dollars, okay, perfect. 01:02:43 Speaker 14: And so that would be a great opportunity to take advantage all these wonderful speakers that you met I mentioned, and that includes meals, programming costs, and the hotel rooms are already already greatly reduced. Lock yep, so prep yeer though. That is one of our major initiatives. We're excited about it. We launched this past year down in Fort Worth, Texas. Interestingly, from here, I'm literally leaving here and I'm flying down to Fort Worth, Texas for graduation. We've had these students for nine months. It's been a wonderful nine months in this kind of pilot launch. And basically what it is is post high school, prior to going on to the next stage of life. So many students today, Unlike when I graduated from high school, everybody went to college. But today kids are actually asking the question why should I go to college. You have my own daughter who's sixteen saying, you know, I'm not sure I'm going to go to college. Why why should I go to college? I think it's healthy that students are actually asking that question. And of course Charlie was leading the charge about you know, college being a ripoff and a scam. 01:03:42 Speaker 2: And scam that got the book back here somewhere. 01:03:44 Speaker 14: Right right, and so I know that his influence was huge, and you know, with these students. But we thought, and I went to Charlie and I said, Charlie, you're always say about the kids not going to college. You know, I understand we're in agreement on that, but let's design a program that will prepare them for life, irrespective of whether they go on to college or going to the military, the trades, the arts, entrepreneurship, become a homemaker. So we designed a nine month intensive leadership development program where we study the great book, which of course is the Bible, the great books of Western civilization. Blake, you would appreciate that the great documents of our country, with great speakers and mentors and experiences that we give these. 01:04:21 Speaker 2: Kids immersive skill based experiences too. 01:04:26 Speaker 14: Yes, because we want to give them practical skills that are going to serve in the rest of the life. So we teach them personal finance, we teach them firearms training, we teach them how to cook. But those are things in the afternoon. Make no mistake, it is a hardcore academic program, but it's also very practically oriented. 01:04:45 Speaker 2: Blake, you had a question, Well, I was thinking you mentioned great books. 01:04:48 Speaker 5: Do you have some good examples, like, what are some of the highlights of that? 01:04:51 Speaker 14: Well, you know the great Western classics that you would study, you know the philosophers, you know Aristotle, Plato, you know Plato's Republic, you know Descartes, some of those works, and then other great works of literature, some of the Shakespeare and others that are regarded as really core Western literature. And of course we can't do it all. But you know, so many of the kids coming out to they have no trading in biblical worldview, They have no understanding of classical Western classical literature at all. They don't get that. They get social studies. 01:05:21 Speaker 2: I just as an auncis. 01:05:23 Speaker 5: So I have a friend who is still in Hanover where I have to scoll a Darwin. This is an Ivy League school, and he says, kids they come in, they're really fried. 01:05:31 Speaker 2: AI. He says, has made things really bad. 01:05:33 Speaker 5: So, for example, you at least used to have to think up questions, ask even if you hadn't read the book. Now they ask AI to generate the questions for them because they can't even handle that level of thoughts. You tell me what to ask about this in class. 01:05:47 Speaker 2: If you want to be humbled, And I'd actually be curious to how you do Blake, because you're probably one of the few I know that would do fairly well. But like, if you want to be humbled, go check out like Oxford. Their their freshman initiation, like say, is questions from like nineteen hundred and the level of understanding of our classical literature, the classical canon of Western civilization was just tremendous. I mean it blew me away. It would blow me away every time. But we've really lost We've really lost something, all right. So you got this big print out here, doctor Hertzberg. Here, doctor huts Hertzberg GPUs turning point education about the education freedom tax credit? Why are you? Why'd you print this out? What do you want to tell people about it? 01:06:32 Speaker 14: Well, let me just say, first of all, there's so much happening in the world of education. I mean we could talk we had time about the education department being closed. I mean that's big news. That's major, major department of education. That is going away. We could talk about the terrible test scores that we see almost every week with the researchers coming out, But maybe the most exciting thing is something that was a part of President Trump's big beautiful bill that's called the Education Freedom Tax Credit. You alluded to what's happening in Arizona. Arizona has been a model to other states across the country in terms of education tax freedom, education credit freedom vouchers. 01:07:13 Speaker 4: ESA. 01:07:13 Speaker 2: It's amazing, it is amazing. Just moved here, and I'm telling you, you get seven I think it's seventy seventy eight hundred and seventy five hundred dollars per pupil, so your student, and so what a lot of the schools do is they'll they'll say, well, it's one to one to send your student to this school. It's seventy five hundred dollars a year or eighty five hundred. So they supplement massively the cost. And you get all these classical schools popping up, these Christian schools popping up, and these these are business people that decide to start a school, and then they bring in all these educators and it's I'm telling you, it's a really amazing culture that's being cultivated. 01:07:47 Speaker 14: Here, you know, and so many states across the country, you know, look at that and just drool. I mean people in the states, not necessarily the state governors. Our state where we're located, which is in Illinois. I mean, we don't even have a crumb that is anything close to this at all. 01:08:02 Speaker 4: In our state. 01:08:03 Speaker 14: But I say all that just to say that in some ways, because of the Education Freedom Tax Credit, it's going to be somewhat moved, but not completely, because this is a great start. It's not the whole Enchilada. But we're so thankful that in the big beautiful bill, President Trump included a provision. It's called the Education Freedom Tax Credit, and it's a dollar dollar tax credit, so you can give up to seventeen hundred dollars designate that to a designated scholarship granting organization. They're called SGOs, and we've already identified one that turned with turning point that we're going to be working with with our schools and parents. And these parents can make a gift through the SGO to directly benefit their child, their school. And it's not just for tuition. It can be for technology, it can be for books, Okay for supplies. 01:08:51 Speaker 2: If I have a student and I want to send my child to a private school, I can go on to Turning Point Education website, Turning point ed dot com and maybe not now, but you'll have an SGO there that you can work with. They'll send the money to your kids school, So that could intend that could help with tuition one. 01:09:13 Speaker 14: Percent, one hundred percent. And actually, and just to give the name of the SGO is a scholarships out of Denver, Colorado. Were very excited to be working with them. They share amazing we share their values, and they totally get what we're doing. We get what they're doing. But but here's the tragic part. Again, half the states you know, have not opted in. I think there's actually thirty one that have opted into this, and then there's a few that are waffling. But states like Illinois and you alluded to this earlier. And do the teacher unions hold such sway over these They. 01:09:45 Speaker 2: Loathe the teachers unions. 01:09:46 Speaker 5: And so the best sign, by the way, that that education tax credit is amazing is it just drives the teachers unions berserk. They constantly are trying to get rid of this. I know, I know they're trying to get something on the ballot right now. 01:09:57 Speaker 2: To an area. Two different these they are both, they're both they're both terrible. Ones less terrible, but they're both terrible. 01:10:04 Speaker 4: Yeah. 01:10:04 Speaker 14: Yeah, So again this is now at the national level, like Arizona had been the Bellweather the lead on this, but in other states now have had had their own version. About twenty five twenty six states have some kind of form of tax credit vouchers. 01:10:18 Speaker 4: Now thirty one. 01:10:19 Speaker 14: States as of just a couple of days ago, have opted into President Trump's Education Tax Freedom Credit. The state has to opt in. Ye. And so but here's the part that people don't understand. Even though we live in Illinois and our governor has not opted in, and he says still considering it. The only reason he'll opt in is because he just will get too much pressure. But we can still take advantage of the tax credit. But that money is going to leave the state of Illinois. So you've got hundreds thousands of families that want to take advantage of this dollar dollar tax credit. They go through the SGO, but their own school in our state can't benefit from it. In other words, their child's school, our child school will not be able to benefit. But I can benefit a school in Arizona and you know whatever other state is participating in the program. 01:11:09 Speaker 2: So like grandparents watching this right now, they could take advantage of this, absolutely one of their grandkids in another state. 01:11:16 Speaker 4: That's that's exactly exactly. 01:11:18 Speaker 2: Do we have a list of the states that have opted in our website? Can we get something like that? 01:11:21 Speaker 14: I'm sure we can get it. It's known. It's problem states which states have yeah. 01:11:26 Speaker 2: Yeah, and a Republican governor or not. 01:11:28 Speaker 14: Yeah, that's exactly right now. There is a couple of democratic ones. One that was a little bit surprising is the governor of Colorado has opted in. Yeah, and there's reasons why he's doing that. But we hope eventually that the pressure will be so great that all the states will opt in, because again it's the governor. The schools are losing money. 01:11:49 Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's insane. I mean, can you imagine turning down money just because you're so beholden to the teachers unions. I'm telling you, the teachers union. We got to break the back of the teachers union. They're ruining so much. It's like teachers' union, feminism, mass migration, it's like there's like a top five things that are ruining the country and it's one of them. Doctor Hutts, thank you so much for coming on. Great work that you're doing at Turning Point Education. Let's keep going. 01:12:14 Speaker 4: Thank you so much, sir, appreciate it. Thank you. 01:12:20 Speaker 2: For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to Charliekirk dot com.