Democrats' Secret, Embarrassing 2024 Autopsy + American Fables

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Learn how you could protect your wealth with Noble Gold Investments at noblegoldinvestments dot Com. That is Noblegoldinvestments dot Com. 00:01:17 Speaker 2: All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. It is May twenty first, twenty twenty six. We're here at the y REFI Studios live in Phoenix, Arizona. Honor to be with you all. Looks like President Trump is conducting a press gaggle inside the Oval Office after signing an executive order reducing regulations on refrigerment and other cooling that they claim is going to save American taxpayers two point four billion dollars, which would be great. We're going to continue on the big story of the news this morning, however, is that the DNC, led by DNC chair Ken Martin, has released their long awaited secret autopsy report, and boy, it's a doozy. It's a lot of fun for it. 00:02:02 Speaker 5: Yeah. 00:02:02 Speaker 2: I think Blake's least favorite headline that Republicans are probably guilty of falling into is Democrats in disarray, because it can often be hope and hopium and cope. But today it's really true, and so we're gonna just have a lot of fun diving into this autopsy report now. Of course, twenty twenty four, President Trump ch lacked, in their own words, the Democrats they lost every single swing state wasn't even close, and they are trying to now do a post mortem, an autopsy on a dead body. That's what you do with an autopsy, obviously, and it looks like it's rife with airs, spelling airs, this sort of thing. Now, if you go back in time, Ken Martin was refusing to release this autopsy report. He claimed it was not ready for prime time. So let's take you back memory lane and show you a clip of this top three. 00:02:57 Speaker 6: And you've got this autopsy on the Democrat that's never been made public on twenty twenty four and everything that went wrong. 00:03:04 Speaker 7: Will you ever release that autopsy? 00:03:08 Speaker 8: We did hundreds of interviews with people to really get a sense of what happened not only in twenty twenty four, but with the Democratic Party for the last twenty years, and the point of that was to learn the lessons that can help inform the future election. We have an authoritarian in the White House right now, and what I've always said is none of us have a time machine. We can't go back and change the past, and so trying to relitigate the twenty twenty four election takes us away from actually our focus on twenty twenty six and twenty twenty eight. 00:03:39 Speaker 2: So that's their whole stick here is that it was going to be distracting, It was going to be a bad move for the party to look backwards. They wanted to look to the future. Ken Martin obviously spinning, spinning, spinning. But what's also notable here is that this has been released without an executive summary. There are annotations throughout that contradict the findings or say that there's no data to back it up, and it doesn't go into a couple of key topics, namely, how was Kamala Harris elected as the nominee without a primary, How is Joe Biden's debate performance done? And why did he ultimately drop out? All of that is missing. 00:04:18 Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean it's very funny about it is it's kind of vindicated and not wanting to release it because it seems the reason, the biggest reason they didn't want to release it is it seems really bad. In fact, they're releasing it with an apologies. So Martin, he actually said this is a statement. He has said, this does not meet my standards and it won't meet your standards. But I am doing this because people need to be able to trust the Democratic Party and trust our word. And if you go through it, there's actually just clown show mistakes in this. So, for example, they kind of do The report includes this extended history of American politics from two thousand and eight when Obama got elected to the present and in the twenty twenty two election, it goes on this digression about the Senate race in Georgia that was the herschel Walker one went to a runoff and herschel Walker lost, and it says it's bashing the Republican campaign here for some reason, and it says this was a blatant attempt by the Republican power base to take advantage of name recognition and a tough economy to push through an unqualified candidate whose job would have been little more than rubber stamping the president's agenda. And CNN has a helpful annotation here. In twenty twenty two, Joe Biden was president and there's mistakes like this throughout. They'll just it'll throw out these assertions and it's annotated, there's no data to back this up. This contradicts claims elsewhere in the report, and when you dive into it, it seems that this report was done by Paul Rivera, a veteran Democrat strategist, but apparently he hadn't worked on a presidential campaign in at least twenty years, and he worked on this part time. So this was a lazy, half done job by a guy who's been out. 00:05:58 Speaker 4: Of the game. 00:06:00 Speaker 9: And so if you go through it the reports, it feels like an AI could have generated this, like give me a plausible Democrat defeat autopsy and you know, just throw in whatever. 00:06:10 Speaker 2: Well, and it would have been done without the spelling airs, which is noteworthy. Let's go ahead and play this is a MS. Now they're trying to break down the report as it's come out. Again, it's only been out for a couple of hours. Here CNN had to cajole and basically do some actual reporting here to get this. They got the majority of the findings, so the DNC was sort of backed up against a wall, forced to release it apologize for the way they handled it. I mean, it's all the disarray is disarraying all over the place, and it's glorious to watch. ST six. 00:06:41 Speaker 6: They argue that the reduction and support for and training for state parties has contributed to a shift in voter registration issues, organizing capacity for the state at the state level, and persistent problems with their candidates to listen to voters. They also say that regaining trust and confidence in the party where voters have an affirmative reason to support Democrats will take a comprehensive strategy and considerable effort over multiple cycles. So this is not some sort of short term change they're seeing here saying that Democrats need to do it right now because the future could become even more difficult. 00:07:19 Speaker 2: Okay, so let me sum that up for you. According to the DNC's own disastrous after action report, this autopsy, they admit that they have pulled money from Obama era grassroots efforts and now they're paying for it at the ballot box. They literally said lasting repercussions. So I just want to compare and contrast, compare that to what we've been doing. Attorney point action. We literally went back to the two thousand and eight literature from the Democrats. We took their best practices that they've been building up over those years. This grassroots, low propensity voter outreach, turn out the vote, we call it ballot chasing. Attorning point action. We rebuilt all of their systems and deployed them in states like Arizona, Wisconsin, Michigan. Now we're doing it in Nevada, we're doing it in New Hampshire. So we've been building up the infrastructure that they bailed on and they went full national apparatus and they stopped investing at the state level, and their messaging was all over the place, right, so they lost trust here and there. This is what I was trying to tell people. It's like, we looked at this report this morning, the team and like, we know all this stuff already, what's the big deal? And I was like, you have to understand. Democrats have an averse relationship with the truth. They don't like it. They like to spend, they don't want to admit to their far left activist base where they get all their energy from. 00:08:41 Speaker 5: That. 00:08:41 Speaker 2: They have been basically sucked down a rabbit hole of far left social issues. And one of the admissions in this report is that that they them ad worked really really well from President Trump. We knew that because Kamala Harris wanted to give you know, prisoners, sex change operations for on the tax tax bears time that stuff. We already knew. But you got to understand the Left doesn't want to be honest with their own activist base, and they don't want to be honest about where the money went, because there's a lot in the report that says there was misallocation of funds. But here's the thing. To Blake's point, it's an awful report. It's done poorly. There's they can't even get their story straight when they're trying to lie. And that's ultimately why Ken Martin didn't want to release this disaster, this flaming heap of garbage. Anyways, Dems are in disarray, all right, I want to keep going through something something I decided to just check it. 00:09:34 Speaker 4: Did you know we're in this report? What we're in this report? Oh? Good turning. 00:09:37 Speaker 9: So they're kind of complaining how Democrats need to change their engagement, their strategy, and it basically goes the party they're talking about. Democrats has to decide whether it will continue to rely on the tactic of dropping people into states as opposed to hiring locally. It's easier and cheaper for some to develop and deploy seasonal talent, even if it puts Democrats in a situation where cycle after cycle, campaigns and parties have to find new people to go work the same turf, instead of teaching people within the community and funding and empowering them to organize their neighbors year round. The Republicans do this differently. Turning Point USA is not a seasonal churn and burn ecosystem. They run programs around the calendar and across the nation, and then they blast Coke funded entities, which, man, I feel like, that's a blast from twenty ten that. 00:10:25 Speaker 2: Shows that this guy is like not in the game. Yeah, yeah, but that's Hey, that's great, We'll take it. There is this brutal report in the in this autopsy, and I just sent it to the team, so give them a second to get it up. But if you look at so, there's a lot of doom and gloom. Okay, there's a lot of people that are upset about this massy stuff. There's a lot of people upset about Iran still have affordability issues. You know. President Trump made a promise that has been often mocked, but he'll go back to it. And that said, he said, you'll get so sick of winning that you'll you'll not know what to do with it. There'll be so much winning you'll get sick of winning. And oftentimes when you're in the day to day you don't feel that. But when you zoom out, like the Democrats did, and you realize just how much they have lost politically since two thousand and nine, it becomes fairly awe inspiring. What we've been able to accomplish by being innovative, by being pioneering, by being driven out of the mainstream institutions, mainstream media, and building our own ecosystems shows like this, institutions like Turning Point, We've accomplished a lot. And this graph is absolutely brutal if you're a Democrat. So if you go back to two thousand and nine, and I'm just taking this straight from their autopsy, they had a sixty forty advantage when it came to senators. In Congress, they were two fifty six to one seventy eight governors, they had twenty eight Democrat govern to twenty two Republicans. State legislature legislators they had four thousand and eighty two Dems to three two hundred twenty three Republicans, and state trifectas where they control the governorship in both houses. I don't know if that would include judicial branch. 00:12:16 Speaker 9: In that usually it means both houses of the state legislature and the governorship. 00:12:20 Speaker 2: Yeah, the governor's mansioned they had seventeen, Republicans only had nine, and then twenty three split. And so fast forward to twenty twenty five. We have a six seed advantage in the Senate, so we have changed R plus thirteen senators since twenty two thousand and nine. We have a five seat advantage in the House, and that means since two thousand and nine, it's our plus forty one seats we have. When it comes to governors, we now have a three seat advantage, which means we've gone R plus five. When it comes to state legislators, I'll avoid the minutia and just say we've gained eight hundred almost one thousand state legislators in that time, and then state trifectas were R plus thirteen, which is tremendous. We went from nine to twenty two where we can control both houses and the governorship. So that's R plus thirteen. That is a massive improvement over the Obama wave. And if you think back Charlie Want Charlie was inspired to start turning point at USA when he was a team in Chicago watching the Obamamania sweep across his generation. And that's the result of all of our efforts and all of our labors and President Trump. And this is the thing. President Trump does stuff every day. I mean, like, I'll give you guys a little insight here. He does stuff every day that drives me nuts. But I love the guy because he reinstilled the fighting spirit in the Republican base, in the activist base. Part of this was the Tea Party movement. We got to give some credit to the Ron Pauls and the Tea Party leaders of the time. But President Trump took the baton and ran with it and fought back like we've never seen any conservative and modern American politics fight back, at least since Reagan. And look at the fruit of our work. Throw that graph up again. Senators are thirteen R plus thirteen, Congress R plus forty one, governors R plus five, state legislatures legislators R plus almost one thousand. Yeah, it's state trifecta is R plus thirteen. 00:14:22 Speaker 9: Yeah, and some of that's you know, it's even gone backwards too. I think we were peaking. 00:14:26 Speaker 4: I think we had you know, if. 00:14:27 Speaker 9: There's twenty two trifactors, I think we had thirty or thirty one trifectas at the absolute peak. 00:14:32 Speaker 4: But really, yeah, we got really high at some points. 00:14:36 Speaker 9: Because we've lost a little ground in some of those in like Michigan, I don't think we have it anymore. 00:14:40 Speaker 4: We don't have as many governors as we used to. 00:14:42 Speaker 9: But yeah, it's such a different situation on the ground. We've rebuilt so many state parties to be much more They have more of a killer instinct, they're much more combative. And it's not even just that we control more offices. I feel like we're so much better at getting Republicans at the state level to achieve things. This redrawing the districts that we've been doing across the South and in Texas and in Florida that would not have happened twenty years ago, getting everyone lined up to pass things like we've got constitutional carry in so many states. We're getting states to pass those education tax credits and vouchers all and also a lot of great pro life legislation. We're getting stuff done in politics that just the Republicans used to be these huge whimps who would not do these things, they have learned to fight so much harder. And of course the transgender is something I think that's one of the best examples every single social issue. Basically going back to nineteen sixty it was some slow frog boil to where the left would win. And this is a case where they actually tried hard and they got smacked in the face and the public said no, and they rolled it back. 00:15:52 Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's tremendous. 00:15:53 Speaker 2: You're absolutely right. I mean, you know the old adage that Republicans are just Democrats five years, you know, back where we're just a little bit behind them. That has changed. That has changed. You look at Matt Walsh, what is a woman? The taking down of the transgender insanity? We haven't seen that. That's new. Have hope, we can get things done. You can just do things sometimes, all right. America is entering its two hundred and fifty year and the direction of this country is being decided right now in our culture and our economy, and who we choose to support matters more than ever. Most wireless companies they don't care about who you are, what you believe. They just want your money. 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So go to Patriot Mobile dot com slash Charlie, Patriotmobile dot com slash Charlie, or call nine seven two Patriot and use the promo code Charlie for a free month of service. That's Patriot Mobile dot com slash Charlie or nine seven to two Patriot with the promo code Charlie and switch today without further ado, we got Mitchell Brown, polster and partner of political strategy at Signal. Mitchell, welcome back to the show. It's good to see you, my friend. Have you been well. 00:17:41 Speaker 10: How are you guys doing. 00:17:42 Speaker 2: You've been traveling around doing polling for all of these campaigns all over the country. You're busy man. So this autopsy report, I know you've been kind of going into it like all of us, diving into one of the findings. Big picture, what's your initial take? 00:18:00 Speaker 10: One, it's eighteen months post election. They have an autopsy that's inconclusive, doesn't have a lot of actual findings there. You didn't need eighteen months to do this. I could have given you this in two days. There's a been a lot of central elements of why they lost. One of them is again just how the DNC is currently structured compared to the RNC. DNC doesn't invest a lot anymore in their state operations, and so it's this wide network of dark money that really isn't traceable, while RNC has money in their coffers and is developing a ground game to get out the vote and to register voters. So on a serious and practical note, that is one thing there. Secondary, again, it's pretty simple to boil down what their mistakes were. One, I mean, I'm in Wisconsin right now, I'm doing focus groups here, a state that again Trump carried in twenty four, carried in sixteen despite Democrats thinking this one was in the bag. Again, the main issue here was one that they didn't address and that the current administry, the Trump team does need to get in front of now. And that was prices. I'm hearing that again today, the same thing that again cause a lot of these Ross Belt states to flip in twenty four. It was that issue of prices. Secondary one was just how the Biden team was talking about that and hold DNC at oc. They were basically yelling at people, no, actually everything was great right now. Your life's not more expensive. Everything's going really really well. Don't worry about it. The numbers tell us so. But Third, I mean, we had an entire party that wasn't willing to admit they had someone with cognitive declines sitting in the Oval office until the whole world got to see it on a debate stage and then post that instead of saying, hey, we need to clean up our act, let's immediately get to a convention style process where people can have a vote. They said, you know what, no, we're going to throw that away. We are king maker. Here is your selection a woman that no one really liked. 00:19:53 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty that's pretty good analysis. I would say, Mitchell, you know your bring up this affordability right, like I guess the first thought that came to mind. Now, I want to just state my beliefs, but then let's talk about the politics and the messaging of it. Now. My belief is that listen, we had gas prices pretty down, pretty far down, and then the Iran War happened. That was a political and a policy choice that was made by the president. There's going to be political costs to it, right, just from price to the pump standpoint. But you had, you know, nearly thirty percent of inflation over four years with Joe Biden massive money printing. It was a theft of from the working class. Absolutely made things more expensive, getting access to the American dream, buying a home, starting a family, all of these things. Healthcare cost, education costs. But these things don't happen and they don't turn on a dime. They happen over time. They happen over multiple policies, decisions, and we are still climbing out of what Biden did to us. Now, I understand that when you are a low information voter, and I don't mean that as a pejorative, you're working, you're raising your family, You're dealing with your everyday things. You're not looking at this as closely as we are on this show, and your instinct is just blame who whoever's in power. But there has been great strides made on slowing the rate of inflation. It's down in the three percents as opposed to the nine percents. There has been great strides in affordability and rents. Rents have come down. But again, these things are like turning the Titanic. They're not going to happen overnight. What are we at risk? And so now let me get to my question. Are we at risk of repeating the same mistake the Democrats made in twenty twenty four by telling our voters everything's great, You're living in the Golden Age and you're richer than ever Your thoughts, Yeah, I. 00:21:42 Speaker 10: Mean, this is a common frame that I go through with most of our statewide campaigns right now, is so you have to one lead with understanding again, so whether these are again the voters aren't gonna here to explain macroeconomics for what inflation is or these things, but it's a understanding. I get it that things are still high, that there's work to be done. Here are some of the reasons why it's still that high. Here's what we're doing to address it. So it's not ignoring the issue and saying no, everything's fine. It's hey, there are some structural issues that we are addressing. Here is a plan, I understand and we are working for It's again, people need to be heard again, especially when you talk to even just young voters again that what we talked about of the again trying to actually start a family, own a home, these things. Again, when the issue is yes, we're having strong employment, but it's not really people that are excelling. That younger group of people is not hitting that job quality and that salary and take two start a family and have a home. They're seeing some of these lagging vectors there. So when we're talking to these people, it's one understanding what's going on in their view again, always talking about it from there. Again, if you look back at it, someone who was great at this again, Bill Clinton was a master of empathy, whether it was fainned or real empathy is he always led with that, and I think it's something that a lot of other people and a lot of Republicans need to understand for this election cycle to not be bashed over the head with that. Because yes, there was a few sixty forty social issues that helped Trump win, being one being immigration, one being anything involving children, transgender, stuffed kids in sports. Those two were pretty much sixty forty issues. But other than that, these swing voters, it all came down to they thought their life was easier and cheaper in twenty nineteen than it wasn't twenty four. So we need to buy election day convince them that it's still better right now in twenty six than it was for the election in twenty four. 00:23:38 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you think about the Democrats that you know, I've seen some of the fallout here, just their early reaction saying, hey, we've started to invest in state parties and we're messaging on affordability. The problem is is that obviously, you know, I'm a conservative, likes conservative, believe you're a conservative. So it's like we'd know that their ideas simply don't work. You know, you can promise free grocery stores, but somebody's paying for that, and is it really gonna make a dent in the problem. You can promise rent control, but then you realize rent control ends up drying up supply on the market and causing all other types of structural problems. The way you unleash affordability is you increase competitiveness, You get rid of regulations, you let the free market do its thing, and then you stop flooding the market with illegals and millions of people that are sucking up housing supply. You've got structural issues that affect healthcare right trump RX is in the most Favored Nation status. These are things that will have a material impact on that. The question is what's the way to message it? Because Democrats are gonna message on affordability, but we know that their ideas ultimately make matters worse. They prove that during the Obama year or the Biden years, and in the Obama years. So the question is, Okay, yeah, we can relate to your pain, but how do we educate you that the solutions Just because they're mentioning the magic word affordability doesn't mean they've got any ideas that are actually going to ad Yeah. 00:25:00 Speaker 10: I think it's two fold. There's one. You also have the problem set that Donald Trump is not on the ballot, and so there is a whole group of people who can even skip a lot of midterm elections that are Trump voters. They're a unique younger, working class man, especially like in Wisconsin. Ram Now, so that group of people, you have to have the challenge of not just persuading them, showing them what you're doing to help them, but even getting that group to the ballot box. And that's where other Republicans have always struggled compared to Trump. Not having him the ballots one thing there, but other people it's finding individual audiences. Okay, for all, say, if you're running a Senate race here in Wisconsin, orgubernatorial in Michigan, you have to understand, Okay, what group of people is responding to healthcare. That's where they're feeling the most corn Yes, exactly, So okay, the Trump are message, Okay, that has to be played to this audience. That's who they need to hear this because maybe they aren't aware of that or they haven't seen it where it is it's meeting people where they are and addressing it on a localized level, and without Trump on the top of the ticket, localizing these elections, making it about their state and affordability that way is a much better option. 00:26:03 Speaker 9: So we mentioned gas prices from Iran. But another driver of affordability issues is the impact of tariffs. President Trump obviously has some has a plan there, but it does raise prices, at. 00:26:15 Speaker 4: Least in the short term. How does that play into things? 00:26:19 Speaker 9: Would any adjustment to tariff policy possibly create that short term shift? 00:26:24 Speaker 2: That is what we're looking at, and how are tariff's playing out? What people think a. 00:26:29 Speaker 10: Few states, it's troublesome. Iowa again, I do a lot of work in Iowa in the past fourteen months. Every time you're there, those targeted ads are about what tariffs are doing to farmers and what they're doing to people in Iowa. And so Iowa again there's going to be a swing state this year. Again look at this There's a very tough gubernatorial election there and a Senate race that's going to be much closer than it probably should be that state. It's playing here in Wisconstinan's also playing But again these states that are again have been traditionally Trump and votvoters who felt like they were fighting for him have felt some of this brunt at home now and without that quick adjustment before the midterm, that is going to be something that every other Republican has to defend and how they were that defense is going to be a challenge. 00:27:14 Speaker 2: Mitchell, I know that we've talked about this in the past, and I will tell you. You know, Charlie was even worried about the state of young voters. Saw what was kind of the writing on the wall with Midnight Hammer, saw it with Epstein. You know, how big is the Iranian war playing into everything? And how big is Epstein playing into everything? Obviously that became front and center this week with Thomas Massey's race in Kentucky's fourth But more broadly, how is that playing? 00:27:42 Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, I think the Epstein one is more that's just a kind of a phase and a current thing. But structurally, like the Iran War is a large component of the Trumpian audience as people who are more restrictionist and army that like most of my veteran friends or an anti Aron war, they're anti getting into more conflict in the Middle East, similar to Charlie. And while so many of my former anybuddies found Charlie I was talking like that. That's where you see the massive generational divide. And another telling thing from that Massy race is if you look at the age breaks in that vote there to where it is the boomers that's ousted Thomas Massey, it was no young voters. Again, he won every voter or every voting group he won a majority of under the age of fifty five, under the age of sixty five. Every group over there is where alrein overperformed. And that's not unique to Kentucky. That is pretty much everywhere to where when things are harder for young people at home, they become even more restrictionists on their views abroad. And so when these young people who came wanting something different and we're told to actually, no, we're going to do that, that group has repelled on that idea. So again, a quick wrap to this conflict is key. It can't be another point on there. We can't if we already have to go out and do the work of persuading on the economy and inflation. We can't sit there and have to defend more conflict. 00:29:15 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that becomes a problem, right, because we've often said on the show, you can always choose when to start a war, you can't necessarily choose when to end it. And it sounds like some of the reporting that President Trump has had some stern conversations with bb net and Yahoo out of Israel basically telling him this is how it's going to be. I think President Trump his political instincts are probably kicking in and he's looking for a you know, an immediate get out of Iran card. Right. It feels like you can you can feel that momentum building, which I would be in support of. Candidly, I think there was an argument to be made that this was the right geopolitical and national security decision, and it might have just been one of those things where politically it's going to have an impact. And when we talk about that race in Kentucky's fourth though, and you talk about this sixty five and over, Galleran won that group, but he lost every other group. How much did they punch above their weight class? Did they out index turnout rates between gen z and in the over sixty five? 00:30:24 Speaker 11: Yeah? 00:30:24 Speaker 10: So I mean naturally, when you're sitting in a Republican primary audience, it's much older and much wider, much more male. So when you're sitting there, okay, that's already a larger chunk of the audience there, they performed a slightly higher and a slight underperformed. So MASSI overall did better. I'm talking about in relation to where those groups should be, not overall turnout amongst those groups, but percentage based on how what percent over sixty five compared to what percent under sixty five? It was again about a ten percent over performance of older voters being there compared to the younger betters. 00:30:59 Speaker 2: Fascinating, Blake, you got anything? 00:31:01 Speaker 9: I just so we're saying the president's instincts are kicking, and he does have extremely strong political instincts. That's why he could essentially wing it in twenty sixteen, win the nomination, win the presidency. 00:31:13 Speaker 4: He's always been going. 00:31:14 Speaker 9: Marka's got He's great at marketing, he's great at the sense of how things will play out. And so that's why we say he seems to be trying to wind down the Iran thing now because I think his senses that it could be very destructive. But how quickly does the public adjust on something like that, because what we've talked about with the Iran war is there's the effect of the price at the pump, there's the effect of economic stuff. 00:31:39 Speaker 4: But how much of a role does the bigger sense? 00:31:42 Speaker 9: We know from a lot of young voters, swing voters that they just feel let down by the fact that the war happened because they thought that was just not going to happen. No war yet, no new wars and so forth. Do they get over that relatively quickly? Is that something they can move on or is that more likely to be sticky? 00:32:01 Speaker 10: Yeah, Well, the point that you make again, Donald Trump has a great political intuition. It's the kind of a double edged sword here to where he is not running right now. So it's great that he can go out and say these things, but it's still, end of the day, it's if you're running in Georgia, if you're running in North Carolina, you're running in Arizona. You the candidate have to answer that. And again, Trump's allure and why he's always been so successful is he can hit an audience and talk to people in a way most other Republicans can't. And so without that, that's where it gets harder. Is it's going to take a much larger effort from outside groups like Turning Point, like TP Action, like the White House Political team moving over and getting out there and doing everything they can to help these candidates in those seats, because again, we can go out and do that and explain and persuade, but we need to get on it. We can't just be hey, we're leaving these centers out to defend themselves. 00:32:53 Speaker 2: All right, let's go round Robin here and tell us how you like our chances here, Mitchell, because it does feel like there's been a bit of a moment momentum shift. We were kind of in the doldrums and we've gotten our groove back a little bit after Indiana, after the vra et cetera, et cetera. Okay, let's go to Georgia. Mike Collins. Does he have a shot to knock off us off? 00:33:16 Speaker 10: No, that's probably the toughest one uphill battle, I think, and you're much more much better suited obviously to keep the gubernatorial house there. But that's going to be a tough seat because of ossof's cash. 00:33:27 Speaker 2: Okay, Mike Rogers, Michigan. 00:33:30 Speaker 10: Mike Rogers, I would put at us slightly above Collins and the chance to flip that seat. 00:33:38 Speaker 2: Okay, what do we think about keeping the house? 00:33:42 Speaker 10: Keeping the house again? Obviously with we kind of left four more seats on the table by not having Alabama, Mississippi, and South Carolina draw there, and we'll see how Louisiana finals out. I think with that change there, we're looking at most likely we can and it's going to be within three this time. So again it's hard to fully say, but I think we probably lose the house by one or two if I had to go on this today. And again, the issue though, when we're talking about all these other Senate races, guys, is that we were originally seeing a map with where we have North Carolina, Georgia, Michigan, maybe one or two defense. But now we have to spend in Alaska, Maine, Iowa, Ohio, and Texas in addition that are going to be actual battles that people can't overlook. So the fundraising, yes, it's been great. We need to fundraise more and we need to start in all of those We can't take any of those seats for granted. 00:34:41 Speaker 2: Senate Senate. 00:34:42 Speaker 10: I think we end up holding, probably lose one to two seats overall, but still have the majority. 00:34:48 Speaker 2: Listen, I don't disagree with me of your takes, I'll accept. For Georgia, I think some more structural changes have happened on the on the integrity voting integrity side that are going to give us a little bit more of a benefit than we predict. That's my prediction. Mitchell Brown's signal, thank you, my friend, good to see you. Thanks guys, how much our life, liberty in the pursuit of happiness worth to you? This is the question America's founders had to answer. You See, for more than one hundred and fifty years, America's thirteen colonies governed themselves until Britain declared they had no right to self rule. So ordinary people had to make extraordinary choices and risk their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor to fight for independence, and against all odds they won, and in victory they built one of the most stable and lasting republics in human history. Now experience the American polution like never before thanks to our friends at Hillsdale College. 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Hillsdale dot edu slash Revolution. To locate a theater near you and buy tickets for Revolutionary American one more time. That's Hillsdale dot edu slash Revolution. There is a massive press conference happening in Minnesota. They are nailing the Minnestate of Minnesota for fraud. Right now, Remember. 00:37:04 Speaker 9: When, like I remember when the Nick Shirley stuff started to come Remember before then people saying nothing will come of this, this is all just going to be slot, nothing will happen, and before that as well, Yeah, no, I. 00:37:14 Speaker 2: Mean so, I remember when we had I always forget his name, Ryan. 00:37:19 Speaker 4: Oh Man. 00:37:20 Speaker 2: We were early on this. The foro Thorpe Thorpe City Journal came out with some initial reporting on it, which is I think partly what inspired Nick Shirley to go to Minnesota. Now, we didn't realize Nick's whole investigation was going to go so viral. But here's what's happening. The DOJ is doing a big press conference right now talking about the first round of indictments against the fraudsters. Go ahead and play SOT nine. 00:37:47 Speaker 12: Today we are announcing criminal charges against fifteen defendants in Minnesota for fraud schemes that targeted over ninety million in taxpayer dollars. The fraud here in Minnesota is shocking. Our cases today involve seven different state managed medicaid programs that have been systematically pilford by fraudsters who treated Minnesota run programs as their personal piggy. 00:38:18 Speaker 2: Bank, Pilford as their personal piggy bank. That's the strong words from that is Assistant Attorney General Colin MacDonald, who is in charge of the Fraud Division. Now that the Anti Fraud Task Force which the which President Trump has propped up. Obviously it's being chaired by J. D. Vance and it looks like also FDT chairman, FTC chairman who we had on the show, Andrew Ferguson. So that is just one of those big storylines that's happening. Representative Ilhan Omar has been asked about her ties to some of this fraud that just happens. SOD eleven, did. 00:39:00 Speaker 11: You ask Minnesota Democrats to block the subpoena for the investigation of Feeding our Future on the state level? The House, the House Republicans are considering investigating and feeding our Future? Now your role in it? 00:39:19 Speaker 5: Would you cooperate with. 00:39:20 Speaker 11: That subpoena and provide documents if they requested it? Here in the House Oversight Committee. 00:39:28 Speaker 2: Fucking welcome to Washington. That's exactly what happens in the hallways and the byeways and the steps. They get asked difficult questions that they don't want to answer, and so they just bypassed them altogether. She's got no good answers for it because ilhan Omar is legitimately a scourge on our Congress. That's exactly right. She is a disgrace to the city of Washington, d C. And to the American people. She probably engaged in immigration fraud. She's engaged in some other issues that are causing her complaints with the ethics, complaints within the House. So ilhan Omar has got, I think, some bad things in her future. She's going to be continued to be investigated. To help us break this down, We've got Mike Davis, the Article three Project joining us now. Mike, welcome back to the show, My friend, Big news outam Minnesota with the fraud case. This is the first series of indictments brought by the DOJ. We were told nothing was going to happen. You are a We're all cynical, Mike. You are an insider with this world. You know a lot of these people behind the scenes. Is more stuff going to continue happening? 00:40:43 Speaker 5: Yes? Absolutely, This, combatting this fraud is a top priority of President Trump. He's tasked his vice president to lead the effort along with Andrew fergus of my friend, who is the FDC chairman. We have Colin McDonald at the Justice Department who is leading the National Fraud Division, the new National Fraud Division. Todd Blanche, the Acting Attorney General, is fully behind this cash Bettel. This is a whole of government's approach. You saw Bobby Kennedy, the HHS, excuse me, the Secretary of Kennedy from HHS at this press conference today, along with doctor Oz, the Medicare, Medicare and Medicaid CMS administrator. They're taking this extraordinarily seriously in the Trump administration. This is as they said at this press conference today. This is just the beginning of these indictments. There are many more indictments coming. I think it was like ninety million dollars and fraud that they brought indictments for today. There is so much fraud across across the government, particularly in these Democrat states. In Minnesota, it was these Somali pirates who were looting the Minnesota Medicare and Medicaid systems. It seems pretty obvious that the Governor Tim Waltz and his team were at at a minimum, turning a blind eye and reckless in this. So maybe you should see investigations into these Democrat politicians who allowed this broad to happen. Elan Omore, as you guys were talking about this, if you are a Somali pirates in Minnesota who defrauded the governments, you're gonna have a very rough next three years. 00:42:38 Speaker 2: Yeah, you nailed the head, You put the nail whatever, whatever the expression is. I'm losing it right now, but you hit the nail on the head there, Mike, And I think you know I did. An op ed actually came out this morning on JD Vance and ferguson their leadership in this anti fraud task force and how refreshing it is. They are our instrument of justice. The American taxpayers are sick of getting fleeced by smally pirates other foreigners, but they're also sick of the politicians who enable it. And again I say this with caution, Mike, because I know you have to have some discretion here, but are we going to see justice for the politicians that enable this? Because I truly believe that fraud is not a bug, it is a feature, and this is all designed to sort of enrich and empower constituencies that vote Democrat and we want to see actual leaders get indicted here. 00:43:38 Speaker 5: Let's just ask this question, how does Nick surely, a young, old and fearless reporter with the camera go in and go into Minnesota and find and expose this fraud, but the governor of Minnesota doesn't know what's happening right under his nose. It's just not believable that Minnesota Governor Tim Wolves did not at a minimum know about this widespread fraud among the Somali community, the Somali pirates. And the reason he would turn to blind eye is obvious. He wants their support. He wants their political support, he wants their votes, he wants their political donations. I think the FBI, the Justice Departments, the Inspectors General and hhs CMS, all these government programs they need to open investigations on these Democrat politicians. 00:44:36 Speaker 2: What just real quick of breaking here. Feeding our Futures mastermind has just been sentenced out thirteen breaking news. 00:44:45 Speaker 7: A Minnesota judge has just sentenced the mastermind behind the Feeding our Future fraud scheme. 00:44:52 Speaker 8: Amy Bach. 00:44:54 Speaker 7: She just got more than forty one years in prison. The scheme involved the theft of nearly two hundred fifty million dollars in COVID funding. That money was meant to feed hungry children. 00:45:06 Speaker 2: Forty one point five. That's good that. I mean, I was thinking it was gonna be four point one years. That's forty one years. That's it. 00:45:14 Speaker 4: We need stuff like that for a lot of the others too. 00:45:17 Speaker 2: Yeah, we do. All right. I gotta play one more clip here, because they're just too good. I mean, they're they're insulting Mike, but it's it's just I'm just so happy, overjoyed to see them actually taking action because again, so much cynicism is set in. You know, we're used to the vice president getting a policy, you know, something in his portfolio and just sitting on it. It's just a lot of grand speeches, no action. You might remember Kamala Harris's borders are comes to mind. Not this time they're speaking, frankly, they're taking direct action SOPT fourteen. 00:45:51 Speaker 12: Today's charges are unprecedented. They include the highest loss amount ever charged in a medicaid case. The common theme throughout these cases is fraudsters exploiting vulnerable programs and vulnerable people to enrich themselves, no matter the consequences to the programs or to the people. Two defendants have been charged in an over twenty two million fraud scheme involving the Individualized Home Supports program. These disabled individuals were used like lottery tickets by these defendants to generate millions of dollars, which these defendants used to expand their real estate holdings, purchase luxury vehicles, and splurge on expensive jewelry. 00:46:37 Speaker 2: And the Democrats let it happen. And I'm sure some Republican politicians did as well. I know there's investigations in Ohio as well. Right now, check this out, Mike. Since April first, the DOJ's Fraud Division has announced over four hundred and fifty fraud enforcement actions nationwide, representing tens of billions of taxpayer dollars. 00:46:58 Speaker 5: Yeah, the Democrat Party is party of well, first of all, they're the assassination party, as we all know, and they're also the party of fraud. And what they do is they let their low life constituents like these Somali pirates come in illegally, get on our public dole and siphon up the public dole, commit massive fraud, and then get rewarded with birthright citizenship, get rewarded with these government grants, this lavish lifestyle. I am so pleased that President Trump and his team, Vice President jd Vance, Andrew Ferguson, Todd Blanche, Colin MacDonald, Cash Bettel, Doctor Oz, Secretary RFK Junior. This is an all star team and they're going after this broad. They're going to put these scumbags and jail. And wait until we start doing asset forfeiture, when we start going after these Somali pirates mansions and sports cars and bank accounts. Uh, it's this is just the beginning. And this is not going to just happen with the Somali pirates in Minnesota or the Somali pirates in Ohio. This is going to be a nation wide effort. So the California, New York Justice is coming for you guys. And it's not just the people who committed the fraud, the scumback low lives who committed the fraudts of the politicians. We need to remember this, and doctor Ross talked about this at this press conference today. Remember, they are looting Medicare and Medicaid. These are the programs for the most vulnerable American seniors. It's the same criminal and these scumbacks and all these are taking this money. 00:48:44 Speaker 2: It's criminal and it's evil. I completely agree. You got to remember who's getting screwed here. You you mentioned birthright citizenship. The President was asked about this. You and I were texting about this this morning because there was some Supreme Court decisions that were released. We're we're sort of wondering, you know, would they would they surprise with the birthright decision? 00:49:02 Speaker 13: Not twelve birthright citizenship and we're the only country in the world that has it. You step into our country and you're all of a sudden a citizen. You come in a certain way. 00:49:12 Speaker 5: And this was not meant for. 00:49:15 Speaker 13: Chinese millionaires to have their children become citizens of our country. And if this is allowed to stand, it will be a disaster economically for our country, and you'll have twenty five percent of the people coming into our country coming in through birthright citizenship and we won't have any control. This decision by the Supreme Court is a very big one. 00:49:39 Speaker 2: And Mike, I hate to be the bearer of bad news here, but I asked your opinion, and I guess you can be the bearer of bad news. I said, what's going to happen, Mike, what are you hearing. 00:49:48 Speaker 5: Look, if the Supreme Court actually has the courage to follow the law, which they should, if you have lifetime tenure in pay protection, that's kind of our constitutional scheme. This is such an easy quest. We did not fight a civil war and grant birthright citizenship to Chinese birth tourists one point five million Chinese birth tours to come here, have their kids go back to Beijing and become American citizens and mail in their votes from Beijing. That's not why we fought a civil war. The Supreme Court justices know that. They know that subjects to the jurisdiction in the Fourteenth Amendments means people who were born here with loyalty to the United States, like the freed black slaves, and so this should be an easy case. 00:50:34 Speaker 2: Unfortunately, if you said if they have the courage. 00:50:38 Speaker 5: They don't. They don't have the courage. And that's going to be obvious at the end of June when this comes out, they're going to come up with some They're probably going to say that in nineteen forty statutes is what gives birthright citizenship to Chinese birth tourists and other illegal aliens. It's their way of trying to weasel out of this, their cowardly way to try to weeze a lot of this because I'll say this, we the people, as the sovereign citizens of America, our most crucial sovereign powers to control who comes and goes and who becomes one of us. And we never gave that away. We never gave that away to Chinese birth tourist. We didn't give it away after the Civil War with the fourteenth Amendment. We didn't give it away to any Congress subsequent to that, including that nineteen forty law. But these Supreme Court justices are not going to have the courage to follow the law, and they're going to say that Chinese birth tourists have birthright citizenship under this nineteen forty statute. 00:51:35 Speaker 2: Is there another way out if we get stuck with this, if they rule against this, what's the alternative. 00:51:40 Speaker 5: The other way out? Apparently Congress is going to have to amend that statue to make clear we didn't give birthright citizenship to Chinese birth tours which is not easy to do. You need sixty votes in the Senate, and then it goes back up to the Supreme Court. And the Supreme Court is going to have to decide if the fourteenth the men gives birth rights citizenship to Chinese birth for us, this is just powardice on their part. I see it coming. I work there, I know these justices. I know what's coming. 00:52:11 Speaker 2: Article three Project Mike Davis. Great work. Thank you, my friend. We'll see you soon. 00:52:16 Speaker 5: Thank you. 00:52:19 Speaker 2: How much are life, liberty in the pursuit of happiness worth to you? This is the question America's founders had to answer. You See, for more than one hundred and fifty years, America's thirteen colonies governed themselves until Britain declared they had no right to self rule. So ordinary people had to make extraordinary choices and risk their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor to fight for independence, and against all odds they won, and in victory they built one of the most stable and lasting republics in human history. Now experience the American solution like never before, thanks to our friends at Hillsdale College. Revolutionary America, a new documentary from Hillsdale Studios and narrated by Tom Sson, brings the founding of our nation to life through the voices of those who lived alongside insights from leading scholars and commentator. I'm telling you, Hillsdale has outdone themselves with this. It's amazing. You've got to check this out. You've got to. Frankly, you got to buy tickets to see this film, So please, please, please, It's something you could take the whole family too. You can take your friends, I mean listen. At a time when history is often distorted in schools and classes immedia, this is your chance to see the stories it really happened, and ask yourself, what would you risk for freedom? Face the decisions our founders grappled with in Revolutionary American, a Hillsdale Studios film only in theaters May thirty first through June second, So get your tickets now by going to Hillsdale dot edu slash Revolution. You do not want to miss this opportunity to see this on the big screen. Hillsdale dot edu slash Revolution. To locate a theater near you and buy tickets for Revolutionary American one more time. That's Hillsdale dot edu slash Revolution. I'm very excited about this conversation because this book is just flying off the shelves right now, and it's by doctor Mihan, Doctor Matthew meh. He's in studio here right to my left here, and he's got one of the most beautiful books that I've seen. That's a nice it's really like it's yeah, it's it's absolutely a coffee table book. If you want to the American Book of Fables, Doctor Matthew Mehan, you are the Associate dean and Assistant Professor of Government at Hillsdale College, DC, and now you're also the author of the American Book of Fables, and apparently you are on track to be a New York Times bestseller. So we want to help do our part here to make sure that happens. So get your copy today. 00:54:44 Speaker 14: Welcome to the show, doctor, Thanks for having me. 00:54:47 Speaker 2: Congratulations on the book. I I mean, something of this scale and scope is such a such a process You've got you traveled the country. I love it that the front is kind of homage to the Southwest. So we're here in Phoenix, Arizona. So this looks like maybe Utah. Actually potentially maybe I'm wrong. 00:55:07 Speaker 4: Well, I said, what is this book, the American Book of Fables. 00:55:11 Speaker 15: It's it's basically a journey through the country with a mad cap group of characters, Humanity. 00:55:18 Speaker 4: And his huge humanity his friends. 00:55:20 Speaker 15: Yeah, exactly, they go around the whole country on a mission. That's a long story, but it's a book of for the whole family. And yes, I wanted for A two fifty. I'm sort of a go big or go home. So this is a three hundred and ninety five page hardback heirloom coffee table with tons of illustrations. There's hundreds of pen and inks, oils and watercolors from a beautiful and brilliant illustrator, my dear friend. And this is our third books together. But it has a section for little's which has nursery rhymes from the founding period all the way up to today. I wrote some new ones for the A two fifty and for the themes of the of the of the book. Then it has for middles. It has fables that are Esop like but they've been adapted. Instead of the lion and the tiger, now you have the bald eagle, the buffalo and the beaver. And then there's also a section for bigs with primary sources from founding fathers and from brave settlers and their memoirs and their struggles and the Indian Wars and all kinds of cool stories about the heroism of the American people who settled the country. And then each of those chapters, there's thirteen chapters and honor the thirteen colonies. They go from the Everglades to Yellowstone, to the Desert West, they go up to end a glacier West coast, et cetera. But each chapter has these littles, mills and bigs keyed to the region and then keyed to the Declaration Independence. So each chapter takes a sentence or a phrase from the Declaration and then those nursery rhymes, fables and stories helped to explain the declaration and the American way of life. 00:56:50 Speaker 9: So can you, either reader or a quick summary, what's one of the new fables you came up with that relates to America. 00:56:58 Speaker 15: So I have one about two California Seals, brothers and sisters and the starfish. 00:57:03 Speaker 14: In fact, I think I can show I can find. 00:57:05 Speaker 2: Here is the original paintings. 00:57:07 Speaker 15: These are These are the water colors. The huge ones are are three by five foot oils. 00:57:14 Speaker 14: But I couldn't springs with me on. 00:57:15 Speaker 2: A place you can zoom it. I mean, these are beautiful illustration well paintings and they're throughout the book. The book like when you flip through it page by page, it's it's genuinely beautiful. Look at the layout is beautiful. The pages are big and beautiful. 00:57:33 Speaker 4: And yeah, a beautiful book. 00:57:35 Speaker 2: I'm just not used to beautiful books usually. 00:57:37 Speaker 14: You know, it's even huge. 00:57:39 Speaker 2: It's huge, Yes. 00:57:40 Speaker 4: One huge, big, beautiful book. To tell the president about that one. 00:57:43 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, Well you're going to compete. Well, he's got some table some coffee table books there too, So you know, it occurs to me. You know, we are in America two fifty there is this crisis of patriotism, especially with younger Americans. So for our audience out there, and I do want to Blake's earlier question, I would love to have you read something, but the how do you raise young people that are patriotic, that love America, that get it. What's your advice for them? 00:58:13 Speaker 15: So I think you have to do patriotism just candidly and straightforwardly. The kids need to learn the Pledge of allegiance. They need to go and stop at the roadside historical marker and just read and see men shed blood here for your liberty, you know, during the Revolutionary War or during the Civil War a little easier to do out east. 00:58:33 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:58:34 Speaker 15: Well, but actually when I go out west, I tell a lot of the local stories. The settlement is the way when you're in a western state, the struggles, the sorrows, the sacrifices, and the beauty and bravery of settling the country. That is a local story. And those historical markers are part of patriotism. We think of patriotism as fife and drum, revolutionary war and just the founding fathers. But the old virtue of patriotism which anchors you back into that founding is everyone of your fellow citizens who came before you, who gave you those goods. So I think you have to sort of, you know, think it through in that way. Like I this sounds ridiculous, but a father, you take a cold glass of water in a hot day and you give it to a kid, and you go think of all the people who sacrifice to build all the dams and dikes up into the mountains above Phoenix, Right, so you have clean water, Like that's part of patriotism too. And then I think religion is another virtue, right, being thankful to God for what He's given you. And then piety being thankful to your parents and grandparents for what they gave you. And so those three virtues together are like the three legged stool, and they support someone who is grateful. And why we care about patriotism is because, in one sense, it's how we pursue happiness. If you're not grateful, then you don't have any reason to serve and help because you're like, thank you for all you gave me everyone, and then you want to get back and do good. And people who have been given a lot of good and raised right kind of just do this. We kind of know it. But when you know, like when the frankly the left starts to tell you everything that came before is sick and evil and vile and corrupt and oppressive, you actually have to push back and foster that gratitude. And this is why I wrote this book. I was very keen to. 01:00:21 Speaker 2: Do something I love that. I think gratitude is one of the most powerful virtues, and it seems to change everything about the way you think about your life, where you think about your country, where you think about your family, and I just think when you look at the other side that the civilizational arsonists is, as I like to call them. They they hate everything, they're embittered about everything, they're angry, and we get to be grateful for the providence of God, the blessings of this great nation, the greatest nation in the history of the world. And you're right. I think, like, if I had to sum up what I'm seeing in these pages just sort of before me, is this gratitude for the rich tapestry that is America from sea to shining sea. And I love how you have it broken down by regions. Uh and and uh, you know, from the brackish Blackwaters and the you know to the like I said, the Southwest on the cover, but. 01:01:13 Speaker 9: They left to do a fable book about how those beavers that did the. 01:01:16 Speaker 4: Dams that were under Phoenix Day. Yeah, yeah, no, they had underpaid workers. 01:01:20 Speaker 9: And actually one of the beavers you know, said something racist, So take the beaver's name. 01:01:27 Speaker 2: All right. So Blake wanted you to read something we've got. 01:01:32 Speaker 4: Or if you could summarize, I want to I want to know what the con That. 01:01:35 Speaker 15: One's a little long, that one's a little long for the air. But basically I'll hold it up here up close if you can. Uh, starfish get bored and come out of the ocean and cover the eyes of two seals, a brother and sister, and they just basically say all you can see right are the tubes of their feet. And it's like basically and it takes places in the Channel islands, and it's sort of YouTube channels, right, that's sort of that you can become like totally addicted to social media and sort of lost, and which is the westernmost part right off of La right, And so the starfish basically tell the brother, Hey, you're you're looking weak. You got to bulk up. So he's trying to like carbo load on fish. So he collects tons of fish that the starfish eat at night, and they tell the sister who's going to eat the fish that he won't eat. You're looking pretty fat. You should really sort of thin down sort of you know, you create and basically eventually a witty fox reveals. So it's a kind of that one's a pretty on the nose moral about the dangers of social media that you can see only stars, right and think that you're going to be sort of the famous influencer, right, and sort of get lost. 01:02:43 Speaker 14: In social media. 01:02:44 Speaker 15: And then they they the algorithm tells you to abuse yourself. 01:02:48 Speaker 14: Right, So that's a very that's one of the most modern ones. But it works nicely. 01:02:53 Speaker 4: So the moral of the story is get rid of the starfish. 01:02:56 Speaker 14: That's right. Yeah, well put them back in the ocean. 01:03:00 Speaker 2: That's great. So where can people pick up a copy? Here? Doctor? 01:03:04 Speaker 15: So anywhere you buy a book this week, frankly until Saturday's done. Amazon and Barnes and Noble are the places that would help us get on the New York Times bestseller list, because that's important because this I don't want this to just be something for us on the conservative side of the aisle. I weave in the national parks and all kinds of beautiful things that I think will attract people who aren't on board with what we care about, so that we can actually sort of extend the community of patriots. That needs to be a bandwagon thing. 01:03:37 Speaker 2: Man. You got excerpts from George Washington, a letter from George Washington, John Hancock, you got a letter from Samuel ward Son. It's just a Civil War era. 01:03:48 Speaker 9: I'm gonna say, for all the illustrations that are in it for us big it's a big, well made thing. 01:03:52 Speaker 4: It's on Amazon. It's only forty bucks. 01:03:54 Speaker 2: Yeah, Samuel Ward was a Rhode Island delegate. I apologize, I was thinking about Seward. 01:03:59 Speaker 5: No. 01:03:59 Speaker 15: Yeah, well but they're they're they're all the stories keep pointing to Providence and how blessed the revolution was and the entire settlement of this country. 01:04:09 Speaker 2: We've got a little trait here for the audience. You're going to do a live reading. We've got even some imagery to go along with it of one of your poems that you've written. This is an this is an original. So you have stuff that you've borrowed from different eras letters, from. 01:04:22 Speaker 14: Something something new, something red white and blue. 01:04:24 Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. There you go, something called something new, something red, white and blue. Flora's your sir. 01:04:30 Speaker 14: Yeah. 01:04:30 Speaker 15: This is the Benedictine sort of Benedictory poem, the sort of send off poem, and it's about that that issue of gratitude we talked about before. But it's called American mourning, which is a pun on you could mourn, you could take the black pill, you could be sad, or you could see no a new dawn. America's mourning, right, which how is it spelled. It's spelled like a new dawn. But if you hear what you want to hear. If you're a sad soul, right, but you have to govern yourself. American morning. If we could till the earth as our fathers did, and look on loam that providence long hid, and drink from gin clear rivers overflowing through meadow traces full of bison lowing. If we could step beyond that blackest tillage and wander into hunting ground and village, and smoke the peace pipe, trading well for furs, and find a spring before we die of thirst. If we could make a track without a rest and end at peaceful waters in the west, and build the dams and raise the towers up and from them ring the bells for all to sup If we could dredge the harbor and port the air, and send our ships abroad to make things fair, and rise beyond the curvature of earth, and in one step both wax and wane man's worth. If we could do what our fathers did before, or then what on earth would we be grateful for? The sun now shines on us to play our part as holy as we orient our heart. 01:06:12 Speaker 2: Beautiful, beautiful, And that was read at the rededicate event. 01:06:17 Speaker 15: The White House and freedom to fifty made a beautiful video. I think some of it was in the b roll maybe, but it was a video with using murals from the history of the West, and they had a professional reader and they put it up during the dedication to God ceremonies. 01:06:33 Speaker 2: So what is that when you're writing about gratitude? But maybe dive in what I mean. I love poetry because it's sort of eye of the beholder and everybody gets something different out of it. What do you get out of your own words? 01:06:47 Speaker 14: Each line? 01:06:47 Speaker 15: It's twenty lines five beat lines, so that you have sort of two fifty honored even in the structure of the thing. Forgive me, I'm a poetic nerd. But each line is actually a part of the sps of our history, all the way up through the space race, rising above the curvature of the Earth, the invention of flight, to port the air we make airports, that's us. 01:07:07 Speaker 14: We made that. We did that, but. 01:07:09 Speaker 15: Also we sent our ships abroad to make things fair World War One and World War two, right like, we actually sort of gave to the world from our store of riches and sacrifice. But it's also about looking back and seeing all that and going, oh, shucks. I can't live like the cowboys. I can't live that old adventures. 01:07:27 Speaker 12: Like. 01:07:27 Speaker 15: Yeah, but you actually that's the wrong way. You shouldn't be nostalgic. You should be thankful and then turn around and be that kind of soul for the next generation to look back and be moved. And so this sort of orient your heart turned to the sun that rises in the east. Right, you have to reorient, and there's a whole pun that you have to return and face the sun. And the end of the book in Glacier National is to going to the Sun Road. And there's a pun there if you're witty, wise like humanity is a stupid pun. The puns get more and more complicated by the end of the book, going to the Sun Road, which is a real place in Glacier National. 01:08:03 Speaker 14: It's beautiful. 01:08:05 Speaker 15: The son of God and the son of optimism, American optimism for the future, but also American optimism for our future that rests beyond the grave. That's I think, that's I mean, the thing that made America great. 01:08:20 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love what you're saying, because you know, it says in scripture that God appoints the times in the place, and I do think there is a sense in our modern context that we are nostalgic for the greatness of the past. America is blessed with an incredible past and an incredible story, a founding story. But also you know, World War Two, the sacrifices of the Civil War, overcoming slavery and segregation, all of these things, these myths that are not their actual history, but these are our founding myths that it's hard not sometimes to not get stuck in them. And you look at your present travails and struggles and issues that we're facing now, and so much of the present vibe is that we are a nation in decline. And I feel for you know, the youngest Americans gen Z, youngest voters that are being raised in a country where they feel this decline. They've internalized it in many ways, they've given into nihilism. And the only way through nihilism is to find hope and purpose greater than yourself, greater than your present sufferings. And I guess that's why I resonate with what you're saying so much, because you seem like an optimistic guy, and there is a lot of reasons. With God, all things are possible, and I think that is the American story at its most foundational level, is that this is a providential nation that God has his hand on. 01:09:44 Speaker 15: And it is the duty of the poet. And that's my role in this book. It's the duty of the poet to represent these goods that are old and true in a new way so that the next generation can carry on that tradition. 01:09:58 Speaker 2: That's why you have seal with algorithms and channels. 01:10:02 Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean I did. 01:10:02 Speaker 15: We didn't even get to I have a rock powered character humanity versus an AI powered robotic elephant seal about what is this human nature and what you know, how do we actually engage with AI? 01:10:14 Speaker 14: That's this one right here. It's pretty ridiculous, but. 01:10:18 Speaker 4: A lot of seals. 01:10:19 Speaker 15: It's actually a well, this is the West Coast section you're you're working through, so. 01:10:22 Speaker 2: Well, somebody who used to live in Santa Barbara I could appreciate it that you just go tool around and like a boat and you see seals like climbing up on everything and sea lions. It really is a beautiful part of the country. I mean, it's that spectacle. 01:10:38 Speaker 14: That chapter. 01:10:39 Speaker 15: I actually call it our West Coast because I know you you guys are very good about like, no collects it fine, sort of as a tactical retreat, but we're taking California back. 01:10:49 Speaker 4: Yes, that's right. 01:10:53 Speaker 2: Yeah, Spencer Pratt, Steve Hilton, I'm looking at you. Yeah, exactly. Do we have a poem to Spencer Pratton here? If not, I'm sure his red Yeah. Well, this is fantastic. So let's give it one last shout out here. Guys, help get this to the New York Times bestseller list. Uh, doctor means well, mister me and you're mister in this, but it's doctor Matthew Mahn and the American Book of Fables a gift here. The I just want to say, I mean, I know this is a personal pursuit of yours, but the work that Hillsdale's doing, the scholarship, the quality of people that are produced and you know, enabled empowered through that institution never ceases to amaze me. So this has been a real, real treat and we were grateful to have you, sir. 01:11:39 Speaker 14: Thanks for having me. 01:11:41 Speaker 2: Get your copy today, the American Book of Fables can get it for your kids and grandkids please and keep it around the house and make it go big, because we need more patriotism whip and we need more gratitude, So be grateful today. 01:11:58 Speaker 9: For more on many of these stories and newse you can trust, go to Charliekirk dot com